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    • black3dynamiteB
      black3dynamite
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      https://github.com/foundObjects/pve-nag-buster
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        VoIP_n00b @black3dynamite
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        @black3dynamite interesting. Have you used this?

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        • black3dynamiteB
          black3dynamite @VoIP_n00b
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          @VoIP_n00b said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

          @black3dynamite interesting. Have you used this?

          Not yet! I haven't gone through each script yet.

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            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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            @black3dynamite good find!

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite
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              Proxmox makes it pretty easy to utilize cloud-init to help make some nice a nice templates.

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                stacksofplates @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                Proxmox makes it pretty easy to utilize cloud-init to help make some nice a nice templates.

                Yeah I still go back and forth on how useful that is in non-cloud environments. Packer has a proxmox builder so you could leverage a CM tool to do the provisioning for your templates.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates
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                  I think the only advantage I see is adding a key or something as a server is built, but that's easily automated other ways also.

                  I think I just find doing Bash annoying anymore lol.

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite
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                    @stacksofplates said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                    @black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                    Proxmox makes it pretty easy to utilize cloud-init to help make some nice a nice templates.

                    Yeah I still go back and forth on how useful that is in non-cloud environments. Packer has a proxmox builder so you could leverage a CM tool to do the provisioning for your templates.

                    Besides what is configured in the cloud.cfg file in that VM, having this accessible from Proxmox Web UI is nice.
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                    • jmooreJ
                      jmoore
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                      So what is Proxmox exactly?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                        @jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                        So what is Proxmox exactly?

                        Proxmox is a KVM virtualization stack. Just like vSphere is for ESXi, or XCP-NG is for Xen.

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller So I can use it like kvm but it just has extra features?

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                            black3dynamite @jmoore
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                            @jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                            @scottalanmiller So I can use it like kvm but it just has extra features?

                            Commands lines is different.

                            From the Proxmox Documentation Index from my proxmox server.
                            https://ip-address:8006/pve-docs/index.html

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                            • jmooreJ
                              jmoore @black3dynamite
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                              @black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?

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                                black3dynamite @jmoore
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                                @jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                @black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?

                                It's still KVM. They just using there own toolkit to manage KVM.
                                https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve/features

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                  @jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                  @scottalanmiller So I can use it like kvm but it just has extra features?

                                  It IS KVM, it's just a management layer on top of KVM.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                    @jmoore said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                    @black3dynamite Ok thanks. So it looks like another virtualization option. What advantages and disadvantages does it have with KVM?

                                    The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V. That's it. And Bhyve might as well not exist.

                                    All products on the market are these products. They may come in different packages, but at the end of the day, every solution is one of these.

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                                    • mroth911M
                                      mroth911
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                                      I have been trying ovirt, proxmox and now I am onto xcp-ng.

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                                        JasGot @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                        The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V

                                        I've given up on Proxmox.

                                        What do you use to manage KVM? I know you've mentioned it several times, but I can't recall the name.

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                                          scottalanmiller @JasGot
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                                          @JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                          What do you use to manage KVM? I know you've mentioned it several times, but I can't recall the name.

                                          We were using virt-manager. But Cockpit will do the trick now in the latest release.

                                          What made you give up on Proxmox?

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                                            black3dynamite @JasGot
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                                            @JasGot said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            The only production virtualization platforms are ESXi, Xen, KVM, Bhyve, and Hyper-V

                                            I've given up on Proxmox.

                                            What do you use to manage KVM? I know you've mentioned it several times, but I can't recall the name.

                                            Virtual Machine Manager (virt-manager) and Cockpit. Using Fedora as your KVM host is the best choice if you want the latest version version of Cockpit. But Cockpit also doesn't provide a lot of configuration options like you can with virt-manager.

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