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    Anyway I can Learn AD?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

      @scottalanmiller said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

      @Dashrender said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

      @coliver said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

      Honestly there really isn't much to AD that you will encounter on a day-to-day basis. A book may be overkill for it. The YouTube videos may be a good place to start but setting up an environment and using it will be the best way to learn.

      Without a book there are many aspects you'll never just bump into, especially in a small environment - like sites and domains and trusts - granted, is most SMB you won't bump into these much either (well sites might be something if you have multiple DCs in different locations)... I think a book is best to ensure a rounded view of AD.

      Although you can get pretty far in your career without ever using or even seeing those things. I cover that stuff for MSPs, for example, that see them once in a blue moon. The real question is... in a field over saturated with people with AD experience, do you want to be "just another tech" or do you focus on what makes you stand out?

      Standing out leads to more opportunity .

      Yes, this is one of those weird statistically things that doesn't seem intuitive. It's why things like going to college, or studying the "must learn" tech rarely get you a big advantage... because everyone else is doing that. Because each person only needs a single job, not a lot of jobs, being well suited to the average job isn't actually a big deal. Even if 90% of jobs require AD experience, you don't care because 95% of applicants already have it. You'll never compete with the sea of people already doing it. Those jobs are already essentially lost to you, but who cares. What you care about is being the right candidate for the right job. For you, unless you have some weird passion about local directory servers, that means AD isn't going to be something that gets you a job.

      That doesn't mean you shouldn't know the basics. But like... one to two days of learning it tops. A few hours. Make sure you aren't useless and that you don't get ruled out of a job you are otherwise ideal for because you seem to have a staggering gap in the basics.

      But as to where to focus? Find the areas that interest you and really pound on them. For me, early on, there was a lot of UNIX, VPNs, and networking. Those weren't widely used things (obviously networking was) back in the mid-1990s. But I stood out because I had unique skills. So when people were hiring for those things, I was often the only candidate or one of only a few. My chances of getting a job were higher, the jobs paid better, and the jobs were more fun. I wasn't a cog that could easily be replaced, and that helped a lot.

      I then shored up my resume by learning the broader field of things later. But I had a solid UNIX career pre-Linux, and pre-Windows (not before they existed, before I learned or used either.) I had a focus and it made it clear which jobs I wanted to pursue, and which ones would be interested in me.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IRJ
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        @IRJ said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

        @scottalanmiller said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

        @IRJ said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

        Of course generalists dont see the decline, because they do everything at their companies. Companies that have actual IT departments are surely phasing it out. It's nothing new either. It's been happening for years.

        I'm a generalist 🙂 But I'd say what our slice of the world sees is a precipitous drop in usage. It was easily approaching 100% in shops of 10+ just five years ago. Now we remove it more often than we install it and penetration is above, but closer to, 50%.

        I guess I should say 1 or 2 man IT departments

        Yeah, static small departments will not see any change until they themselves make the decision to rip it out, unlikely once it is entrenched and the team is used to working that way.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          https://mangolassi.it/topic/21064/samit-the-false-risk-of-active-directory

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            https://mangolassi.it/topic/15479/samit-do-you-need-two-ad-domain-controllers

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              https://mangolassi.it/topic/21065/samit-the-myth-of-active-directory

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                https://mangolassi.it/topic/21066/samit-do-you-really-need-active-directory

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                • WrCombsW
                  WrCombs
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                  awesome, I'll watch these when I can.
                  No headphones

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                    @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                    awesome, I'll watch these when I can.
                    No headphones

                    I need to make one on "what is AD".

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce
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                      @WrCombs

                      What is Active Directory?

                      https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/identity/ad-ds/get-started/virtual-dc/active-directory-domain-services-overview

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                      • WrCombsW
                        WrCombs
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                        https://i.imgur.com/cNEzNmk.png

                        installed windows server 2019 on a VM on my laptop
                        Which one do you guys use most?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                          @Obsolesce said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                          What is Active Directory?

                          ... baby don't direct me, don't direct me, no more.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            What did one AD client say to the other AD client at the single's bar?

                            Hey baby, look me up sometime.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                              @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                              Which one do you guys use most?

                              Domain Services is what everyone means when they talk about AD. Most businesses never even install the others, a lot don't even know that the others exist or what they do.

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs
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                                that's fair. but now i'm stuck...
                                I dont have a domain to install this controller on...

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                                • WrCombsW
                                  WrCombs @WrCombs
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                                  @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                  that's fair. but now i'm stuck...
                                  I dont have a domain to install this controller on...

                                  https://i.imgur.com/oeiWkep.png

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                    @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                    that's fair. but now i'm stuck...
                                    I dont have a domain to install this controller on...

                                    It's the first one. You are creating the domain.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @WrCombs
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                                      @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                      @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                      that's fair. but now i'm stuck...
                                      I dont have a domain to install this controller on...

                                      https://i.imgur.com/oeiWkep.png

                                      Use wrcombs.local... or literally anything.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                                        last edited by

                                        @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                        @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                        that's fair. but now i'm stuck...
                                        I dont have a domain to install this controller on...

                                        https://i.imgur.com/oeiWkep.png

                                        Add a new Forest. Domains are inside a forest. By creating the new forest, you also create a new domain.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                          @coliver said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                          Use wrcombs.local... or literally anything.

                                          he's not up to that point yet, he has to select "new" rather than "existing" first.

                                          He's not familiar with Forests and Domains as groupings, so wasn't understanding what it was showing.

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                                          • WrCombsW
                                            WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                            @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                            @WrCombs said in Anyway I can Learn AD?:

                                            that's fair. but now i'm stuck...
                                            I dont have a domain to install this controller on...

                                            https://i.imgur.com/oeiWkep.png

                                            Add a new Forest. Domains are inside a forest. By creating the new forest, you also create a new domain.

                                            created a new forest, under wcombs.local...

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