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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @G I Jones
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      @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

      @DustinB3403 said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

      @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

      Since I've got you all here. What are your thoughts on Exchange server built in Esxi? I was told be someone with more experience than me recently that this is a bad idea, but wasn't given much insight into why or how.

      The rule of thumb is to virtualize everything, and unless you have a really very good reason

      I thought that to be the case. Thanks for that. Just got that PERC H730P installed. I'm going to try again with a VM I think.

      you mean you were not making this a VM? crazy man, crazy!

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      • G I JonesG
        G I Jones @Dashrender
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        you mean you were not making this a VM? crazy man, crazy!

        Nah man, remember I was waiting on the H730P? I was hoping to get up a bare metal in the meantime, but that didn't work out.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Just so I understand the environment.

          You had/have
          AD server - still have
          Exchange 2013 - now gone
          Exchange 2016 - now gone

          Is that right?

          Assuming it is, now you're trying to add a new Exchange server back into this environment, on a new server, so you'll end up with

          AD server
          Exchange server

          Question - do you still have the old data from Exchange 2013/2016? that you need to put into this new Exchange server?

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @G I Jones
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            @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

            you mean you were not making this a VM? crazy man, crazy!

            Nah man, remember I was waiting on the H730P? I was hoping to get up a bare metal in the meantime, but that didn't work out.

            Sure, but even a temp box should still be a VM. No reason to really ever make it bare metal.

            If I was building a temp Exchange box, I'd slap whatever hypervisor on that box first - make a VM, install windows Server and then Exchange... no different than the ultimate location where I want to host Exchange. Do it this way makes it cake to move to the new hardware - just shut down the VM, transfer it over, import if needed, start it up and go! no worrying about doing a P2V...

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            • G I JonesG
              G I Jones @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

              @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

              you mean you were not making this a VM? crazy man, crazy!

              Nah man, remember I was waiting on the H730P? I was hoping to get up a bare metal in the meantime, but that didn't work out.

              Sure, but even a temp box should still be a VM. No reason to really ever make it bare metal.

              If I was building a temp Exchange box, I'd slap whatever hypervisor on that box first - make a VM, install windows Server and then Exchange... no different than the ultimate location where I want to host Exchange. Do it this way makes it cake to move to the new hardware - just shut down the VM, transfer it over, import if needed, start it up and go! no worrying about doing a P2V...

              They have identical PERC Adapters, lol.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @G I Jones
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                @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                @Dashrender said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                you mean you were not making this a VM? crazy man, crazy!

                Nah man, remember I was waiting on the H730P? I was hoping to get up a bare metal in the meantime, but that didn't work out.

                Sure, but even a temp box should still be a VM. No reason to really ever make it bare metal.

                If I was building a temp Exchange box, I'd slap whatever hypervisor on that box first - make a VM, install windows Server and then Exchange... no different than the ultimate location where I want to host Exchange. Do it this way makes it cake to move to the new hardware - just shut down the VM, transfer it over, import if needed, start it up and go! no worrying about doing a P2V...

                They have identical PERC Adapters, lol.

                that doesn't really matter - it could have been a desktop for the temp machine - assuming it had enough storage for your needs 😉
                this is because you're migrating the VM, which is mostly if not entirely, hardware agnostic...

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                • G I JonesG
                  G I Jones @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                  Just so I understand the environment.

                  You had/have
                  AD server - still have
                  Exchange 2013 - now gone
                  Exchange 2016 - now gone

                  Is that right?

                  Assuming it is, now you're trying to add a new Exchange server back into this environment, on a new server, so you'll end up with

                  AD server
                  Exchange server

                  Question - do you still have the old data from Exchange 2013/2016? that you need to put into this new Exchange server?

                  I don't. We're considering it a complete loss. Silver lining is we'll get the funding to protect ourselves now, and the opportunity to build everything into VM's.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @G I Jones
                    last edited by

                    @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                    @Dashrender said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                    Just so I understand the environment.

                    You had/have
                    AD server - still have
                    Exchange 2013 - now gone
                    Exchange 2016 - now gone

                    Is that right?

                    Assuming it is, now you're trying to add a new Exchange server back into this environment, on a new server, so you'll end up with

                    AD server
                    Exchange server

                    Question - do you still have the old data from Exchange 2013/2016? that you need to put into this new Exchange server?

                    I don't. We're considering it a complete loss. Silver lining is we'll get the funding to protect ourselves now, and the opportunity to build everything into VM's.

                    Is there a reason you are returning to onsite Exchange instead of moving to O365 or some other hosted solution?

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                    • G I JonesG
                      G I Jones @Dashrender
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                      Is there a reason you are returning to onsite Exchange instead of moving to O365 or some other hosted solution?

                      Money.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @G I Jones
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                        @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                        Is there a reason you are returning to onsite Exchange instead of moving to O365 or some other hosted solution?

                        Money.

                        As in you already have the Exchange licenses, so it's mostly a non cash setup situation?

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
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                          How many users do you have? how many workstations? How many file shares - are permissions used a lot in those file shares?

                          perhaps, it would be worthwhile to start your AD all over again?

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                          • G I JonesG
                            G I Jones @Dashrender
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                            As in you already have the Exchange licenses, so it's mostly a non cash setup situation?

                            Nail on the head.

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                            • G I JonesG
                              G I Jones @Dashrender
                              last edited by G I Jones

                              @Dashrender said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                              How many users do you have? how many workstations? How many file shares - are permissions used a lot in those file shares?

                              perhaps, it would be worthwhile to start your AD all over again?

                              I'm gonna power through this build first and see how it goes.

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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @G I Jones
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                                @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                                @Dashrender said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                                Just so I understand the environment.

                                You had/have
                                AD server - still have
                                Exchange 2013 - now gone
                                Exchange 2016 - now gone

                                Is that right?

                                Assuming it is, now you're trying to add a new Exchange server back into this environment, on a new server, so you'll end up with

                                AD server
                                Exchange server

                                Question - do you still have the old data from Exchange 2013/2016? that you need to put into this new Exchange server?

                                I don't. We're considering it a complete loss. Silver lining is we'll get the funding to protect ourselves now, and the opportunity to build everything into VM's.

                                So why not setup a fully new AD domain and reinstall Exchange there then? It would be the best course of action as it will be clean.

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                                • G I JonesG
                                  G I Jones @dbeato
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                                  @dbeato We may have to, but like I said I'm going to power through this build first, and we'll see how it goes.

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato @G I Jones
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                                    @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                                    @dbeato We may have to, but like I said I'm going to power through this build first, and we'll see how it goes.

                                    Do it side by side. Setup another AD in another Server and work through it. I bet the new one will go much faster.

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                                    • G I JonesG
                                      G I Jones @dbeato
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                                      @dbeato My plan is to just roll back the snapshot of the AD we have now to when we first built it pre-Exchange. Giving me a blank canvas if it comes to that.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @G I Jones
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                                        @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                                        @dbeato My plan is to just roll back the snapshot of the AD we have now to when we first built it pre-Exchange. Giving me a fresh canvas if it comes to that.

                                        This is a horrible idea. Rolling back AD is almost never a good idea.

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                                        • G I JonesG
                                          G I Jones @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch please elaborate.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                                            @G-I-Jones said in Exchange 2016 Install Issue:

                                            @dbeato My plan is to just roll back the snapshot of the AD we have now to when we first built it pre-Exchange. Giving me a fresh canvas if it comes to that.

                                            This is a horrible idea. Rolling back AD is almost never a good idea.

                                            OMG - THIS, one million times this!

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