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    WTF is a Managed Firewall?

    Water Closet
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      scotth @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

      @scotth said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

      It could be managed by you or could be outsourced, ie. managed router from ISP. Is your credit card processor pushing this on you?

      Yes, something about needing a managed firewall to be in Compliance

      Not surprised. We have a hybrid environment with regard to our processors. They piggy back on our network and have internet access through our modem. They open a hole for us to do backoffice work locked down to specific IPs in our HQ and to a single PC on site. The remainder of our network is ours and is behind our firewall. I'm quite leery about giving our processor / brand franchiser total control over our devices, numbers, communications, phones, cameras, .... You get the picture.

      Oh and @Dashrender is right. Very right.

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
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        https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=managed firewall pci compliance

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          WrCombs
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          this what I found @Dashrender From this website:https://blog.rsisecurity.com/pci-compliance-firewall-requirements-pci-dss-req-1/

          https://i.imgur.com/3ZO0Rvu.png

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            WrCombs @IRJ
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            @IRJ said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

            https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=managed firewall pci compliance

            that was cool .

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @WrCombs
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              @WrCombs

              https://www.securitymetrics.com/blog/getting-compliant-pci-requirement-1-basics-managing-your-firewall

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                WrCombs
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                and this one says:
                https://www.pcidss.com/listing-category/managed-firewall-services/

                A managed firewall service provides an outsourced, specialist function that configures and maintains firewalls. This provider ensures correct and secure functionality of firewalls, typically on a 24/7 basis from a PCI DSS compliant Secure Operations Centre (SOC).

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @WrCombs
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                  @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                  and this one says:
                  https://www.pcidss.com/listing-category/managed-firewall-services/

                  A managed firewall service provides an outsourced, specialist function that configures and maintains firewalls. This provider ensures correct and secure functionality of firewalls, typically on a 24/7 basis from a PCI DSS compliant Secure Operations Centre (SOC).

                  I am not an expert at PCI Compliance, but from what I am reading I dont think it has to be outsourced. I could be wrong though. I think you have to have frequent audits which they count as managed.

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                    scotth
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                    In our case, no we don't have to oursource our firewall management. We can, however, choose to opt in to a total package and allow the 3rd party contracted by the processor or brand to manage our firewalls... for a fee, of course. I can tell you, it's not cheap. If they manage the POS and everything involved with it, and we manage the remainder of the site, they are still responsible for secure transactions and remediation.

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                      WrCombs @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                      @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                      and this one says:
                      https://www.pcidss.com/listing-category/managed-firewall-services/

                      A managed firewall service provides an outsourced, specialist function that configures and maintains firewalls. This provider ensures correct and secure functionality of firewalls, typically on a 24/7 basis from a PCI DSS compliant Secure Operations Centre (SOC).

                      I am not an expert at PCI Compliance, but from what I am reading I dont think it has to be outsourced. I could be wrong though. I think you have to have frequent audits which they count as managed.

                      thats what im thinking

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
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                        This blog post - while not the actual law - seems to talk about several of the requirements.
                        https://www.securitymetrics.com/blog/firewall-pci-compliance-5-things-youre-doing-wrong

                        @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                        this what I found @Dashrender From this website:https://blog.rsisecurity.com/pci-compliance-firewall-requirements-pci-dss-req-1/

                        https://i.imgur.com/3ZO0Rvu.png

                        This is still not the actual PCI compliance regulation...

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                          This is still not the actual PCI compliance regulation...

                          To be fair the actual regulation could state that you need a literal wall of fire being managed by someone who keeps it burning by throwing gasoline and wood onto it.

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                            Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                            @DustinB3403 said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                            @Dashrender said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                            This is still not the actual PCI compliance regulation...

                            To be fair the actual regulation could state that you need a literal wall of fire being managed by someone who keeps it burning by throwing gasoline and wood onto it.

                            lol - great, actually, let's hope it is, that's so much easier to manage 😉

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                              WrCombs @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                              @DustinB3403 said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                              @Dashrender said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                              This is still not the actual PCI compliance regulation...

                              To be fair the actual regulation could state that you need a literal wall of fire being managed by someone who keeps it burning by throwing gasoline and wood onto it.

                              lol - great, actually, let's hope it is, that's so much easier to manage 😉

                              I've sited 3 different things, along with @IRJ
                              the guileline outlined in my post says "Must install and maintain Firewall"

                              Nothing about a managed firewall.

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                                scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                                @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                                title says it all; Aren't all Firewalls Managed???

                                No, the majority are just abandoned. A managed firewall is a service by which a company manages a firewall.

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                                  WrCombs @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                                  @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                                  title says it all; Aren't all Firewalls Managed???

                                  No, the majority are just abandoned. A managed firewall is a service by which a company manages a firewall.

                                  so we have to hire a company to manage our firewall?

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch
                                    last edited by JaredBusch

                                    Official website of the PCI Security Standards Council: https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/document_library

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                                      scotth @WrCombs
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                                      @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                                      @WrCombs said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                                      title says it all; Aren't all Firewalls Managed???

                                      No, the majority are just abandoned. A managed firewall is a service by which a company manages a firewall.

                                      so we have to hire a company to manage our firewall?

                                      No

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch
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                                        https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/pci_security/glossary#F

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                                        https://www.pcisecuritystandards.org/pci_security/glossary#M

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                                          scotth
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                                          Earlier, he mentioned that his company's payment processor was pushing this on them.

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                                            WrCombs @scotth
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                                            @scotth said in WTF is a Managed Firewall?:

                                            Earlier, he mentioned that his company's payment processor was pushing this on them.

                                            Yeah, I dont know what the hell is going on ; just something that was brought up in the office, and we cant be PCI compliant until we have this ; so That's why i was wondering.

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