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    Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @WrCombs
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      @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

      No i have Wifi, I just dont have access to the Controller
      It's on a laptop that died.

      But you don't require a controller for 99.999% of the time. For things like applying firmware, changing an ssid, logging, or creating a new SSID do you need a controller.

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      • WrCombsW
        WrCombs @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

        @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

        No i have Wifi, I just dont have access to the Controller
        It's on a laptop that died.

        But you don't require a controller for 99.999% of the time. For things like applying firmware, changing an ssid, logging, or creating a new SSID do you need a controller.

        correct, that's why i didn't really worry about it cause I was told that in the past.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          What I would do, is nothing for your employer. F them. Not your bag to carry.

          Setup a controller at HOME, to get back into your AP, and learn to create an SSID there.

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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            @DustinB3403 said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

            What I would do, is nothing for your employer. F them. Not your bag to carry.

            First this. Absolutely. You are not covering your own ass. You made no mistakes. Your project is on hold until the company provides the tools needed. That is the fact.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

              Setup a controller at HOME, to get back into your AP, and learn to create an SSID there.

              Second, this. Don't set one up at home right now. You have no issues to resolve on your home wifi. You are currently working on setting up a laptop. One project at a time.

              If you need to do something with your home WiFi and trust one of the member of the community, you can likely ask a number of us to set up access to a new site on one of our public controllers for your use.

              Eventually, once you are ready to run your own system, you can migrate the site form that controller to your own.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                Because he doesn't want to create a separate SSID at his residence and was wondering what he needs to done to make this work at his place of employment.

                Doing it anywhere is going to make it there, though. That's universal.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                  @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                  it's not accessible - I need to redo the one at home too.

                  Probably because you didn't make it a cloud one 😉 This is one of those cases where doing it "right" and doing it "for home" turns into a good lab experience. This is a good chance to run a real "production" Linux server for home that's great for your home use and for education use and in this case, would make work easier as well.

                  If your controller at home is not accessible, that means you aren't patching your access point (important) nor collecting data about it (good for learning) nor able to manage it when you have things to do (medium)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                    @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                    Also because it's not the same SSID ; and It's not going to be the same Ip addresses - although IDK if that makes any difference.

                    It would not. SSID and IP are unrelated. And IP isn't a factor for any of the pieces here... nothing cares what the IP of the AP is, not does the AP care what the IP of the end points are. These are layer 2 devices.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                      Because he doesn't want to create a separate SSID at his residence and was wondering what he needs to done to make this work at his place of employment.

                      Doing it anywhere is going to make it there, though. That's universal.

                      The best thing is to make a new "site" just for aloha device setup. that keeps all the things separate. see my other post.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @WrCombs
                        last edited by

                        @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                        No i have Wifi, I just dont have access to the Controller
                        It's on a laptop that died.

                        And... that's another reason why we don't use disposable devices for server workloads 😉 Don't repeat that mistake, lol. That you can put it on a laptop is really meant for emergencies or not meant to be used at all. They simply didn't restrict it. But it's a server services. Yes, just for your house, but still.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                          @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                          No i have Wifi, I just dont have access to the Controller
                          It's on a laptop that died.

                          And... that's another reason why we don't use disposable devices for server workloads 😉 Don't repeat that mistake, lol. That you can put it on a laptop is really meant for emergencies or not meant to be used at all. They simply didn't restrict it. But it's a server services. Yes, just for your house, but still.

                          That's why I suggest he ask one of us that runs a cloud instance to set up a new site for his house.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @WrCombs
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                            @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                            @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                            No i have Wifi, I just dont have access to the Controller
                            It's on a laptop that died.

                            But you don't require a controller for 99.999% of the time. For things like applying firmware, changing an ssid, logging, or creating a new SSID do you need a controller.

                            correct, that's why i didn't really worry about it cause I was told that in the past.

                            But if you knew you needed it for patching, you knew to worry about it (for safety.) The controller can be down 99% of the time, but not indefinitely. The controller isn't just the path to applying the updates, it's also what automates the updates.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
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                              Site: Aloha POS - today's example
                              Site: JRD - Deke - my dad's house
                              Site: JRD - Dwarf - a friend's place
                              Site: MXXXXX - for someone here on ML
                              Site: SXXXXX - for someone here on ML

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs
                                last edited by

                                This post is no Void.
                                My boss bought an access point into the office with her today that I will set up for my tablets.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by Dashrender

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                  @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                  it's not accessible - I need to redo the one at home too.

                                  Probably because you didn't make it a cloud one 😉 This is one of those cases where doing it "right" and doing it "for home" turns into a good lab experience. This is a good chance to run a real "production" Linux server for home that's great for your home use and for education use and in this case, would make work easier as well.

                                  If your controller at home is not accessible, that means you aren't patching your access point (important) nor collecting data about it (good for learning) nor able to manage it when you have things to do (medium)

                                  I get this - but in his case - this would mean spending $2-5/m just for this - not something I see him spending that money on. for his home UAP, he should just use the phone app, or do what JB suggests.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @WrCombs
                                    last edited by

                                    @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                    This post is no Void.
                                    My boss bought an access point into the office with her today that I will set up for my tablets.

                                    Score!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                      @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                      it's not accessible - I need to redo the one at home too.

                                      Probably because you didn't make it a cloud one 😉 This is one of those cases where doing it "right" and doing it "for home" turns into a good lab experience. This is a good chance to run a real "production" Linux server for home that's great for your home use and for education use and in this case, would make work easier as well.

                                      If your controller at home is not accessible, that means you aren't patching your access point (important) nor collecting data about it (good for learning) nor able to manage it when you have things to do (medium)

                                      I get this - but in his case - this would mean spending $2-5/m just for this - not something I see him spending that money on. for his home UAP, he should just use the phone app, or do what JB suggests.

                                      At some point, lab capacity is a worthwhile endeavor. It's exactly the kind of thing that rocks on a resume.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                        @Dashrender said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                        @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                        it's not accessible - I need to redo the one at home too.

                                        Probably because you didn't make it a cloud one 😉 This is one of those cases where doing it "right" and doing it "for home" turns into a good lab experience. This is a good chance to run a real "production" Linux server for home that's great for your home use and for education use and in this case, would make work easier as well.

                                        If your controller at home is not accessible, that means you aren't patching your access point (important) nor collecting data about it (good for learning) nor able to manage it when you have things to do (medium)

                                        I get this - but in his case - this would mean spending $2-5/m just for this - not something I see him spending that money on. for his home UAP, he should just use the phone app, or do what JB suggests.

                                        At some point, lab capacity is a worthwhile endeavor. It's exactly the kind of thing that rocks on a resume.

                                        Agreed - I just don't think this is it, not unless he's going to have multiple things on a single host - which you typically frown upon.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                          @Dashrender said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                          @WrCombs said in Do I Need a Unifi Controller for a Unifi AP Deployment:

                                          it's not accessible - I need to redo the one at home too.

                                          Probably because you didn't make it a cloud one 😉 This is one of those cases where doing it "right" and doing it "for home" turns into a good lab experience. This is a good chance to run a real "production" Linux server for home that's great for your home use and for education use and in this case, would make work easier as well.

                                          If your controller at home is not accessible, that means you aren't patching your access point (important) nor collecting data about it (good for learning) nor able to manage it when you have things to do (medium)

                                          I get this - but in his case - this would mean spending $2-5/m just for this - not something I see him spending that money on. for his home UAP, he should just use the phone app, or do what JB suggests.

                                          At some point, lab capacity is a worthwhile endeavor. It's exactly the kind of thing that rocks on a resume.

                                          Agreed - I just don't think this is it, not unless he's going to have multiple things on a single host - which you typically frown upon.

                                          It's a tiny need could be run in a container.

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                                          • jt1001001J
                                            jt1001001
                                            last edited by jt1001001

                                            OK late to the thread. We use a cheap travel router for this purpose. GL.iNET GL-MT300N think we paid $25 for it. Supports up to 4 SSID's and can do VLAN's though we only use 1. We can actual do wifi to wifi bridging with it. We use it for these wifi Sapling clocks that need to connect to a pre-provided WPA2-PSK ssid for initial setup.
                                            This is the newest version: https://store.gl-inet.com/collections/travel-routers/products/gl-mt300n-v2-mini-smart-router
                                            Can get these on Amazon now for $25

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