httpd dead but pid file exists
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
My boss has tasked me with working on this.
So can you tell your boss you're limited on what you can do, but you've asked corporate to restore to a separate instance. When they get back to you (and have these two systems) can you then poke and prod this system.
Why try to do this in the dark?
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
How is this AJ Syndrome?
@scottalanmiller would state because you're making it sound as if this system is your only goal in life and that you have to fix it, or else you'll go mad.
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@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
How is this AJ Syndrome?
@scottalanmiller would state because you're making it sound as if this system is your only goal in life and that you have to fix it, or else you'll go mad.
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
When am I just doing my job?
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
How is this AJ Syndrome?
@scottalanmiller would state because you're making it sound as if this system is your only goal in life and that you have to fix it, or else you'll go mad.
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
When am i just doing my job?
I get it, I would take the same stance with the addition of "boss this system is ancient, I can't get documentation anywhere. The best thing I can do at this time is to ask the recovery team to do their job and restore this system. Once that is done can I then investigate what may have happened"
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@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
How is this AJ Syndrome?
@scottalanmiller would state because you're making it sound as if this system is your only goal in life and that you have to fix it, or else you'll go mad.
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
When am i just doing my job?
I get it, I would take the same stance with the addition of "boss this system is ancient, I can't get documentation anywhere. The best thing I can do at this time is to ask the recovery team to do their job and restore this system. Once that is done can I then investigate what may have happened"
I requested a file level restore to see if my hunch is correct. If that doesn't work then I will put that in. In the mean time I'm going to try to get approval to reinstall the module.
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@wirestyle22 Is discovery of what happened more important than this system being operational?
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@DustinB3403 If we restore it's going to take a long time. It's over MPLS to France. One file is nothing. I will test and if that doesnt immediatley resolve it, they will start the restore process.
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
....They don't care about us to the degree that we care about ourselves. ....
How is this AJ Syndrome?That line literally defines AJ Syndrome. You (or your boss or your location) has set a priority that doesn't match what the company dictates. The "owners" or CEO or whatever determine priority X, but you see Y as important and feel that something that the company doesn't see as important is important for your own reasons. It's a personal priority (or someone, maybe your boss) rather than a business one. Hence, AJ Syndrome.
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The realm problem here is France demanding control but not offering 24/7 support. We are on every continent. Doesn't make sense.
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
Doesn't make sense.
Doens't need to make sense to you. That's AJS. Feeling that there are different priorities than set by the company management / owner.
You might be right from a profits standpoint, but that's up to them to determine.
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
When am I just doing my job?I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.
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@scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
When am I just doing my job?I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.
So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
When am I just doing my job?I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.
So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.
Depends if you feel your direct boss or his boss is in charge
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@scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@scottalanmiller said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
It's just a problem I am working on. Anything else gathered from this is wrong. If my boss tells me to install a printer, i install it. If my boss tells me to try to diagnose a problem on a server, I do it. If he comes out and tells me to stop I will stop.
When am I just doing my job?I get it, sounds like it is your boss with AJS here.
So my situation doesn't change. I am still working on this issue.
Depends if you feel your direct boss or his boss is in charge
No, his boss is the person who he reports to. He's apparently been tasked with spending time on trying to find out what happened and to presumably document it. Rather than just to get the system up and running.
Unless his bosses boss came to @wirestyle22 and said "What are you doing, don't do that" should @wirestyle22 just stick with what he's been told to do. It sounds like this was a direct order.
"Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.
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@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
"Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.
Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?
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@JaredBusch said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
"Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.
Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?
I think your D&D is showing.
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@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@JaredBusch said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
@DustinB3403 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
"Drill a hold in that table." sort of thing.
Where else is the blood supposed to go when we sacrifice them?
I think your D&D is showing.
Likely
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@wirestyle22 said in httpd dead but pid file exists:
If we restore it's going to take a long time. It's over MPLS to France. One file is nothing.
This is a huge problem. How the heck are they using Europe as their singular backup location for US based servers? This is insanity.
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Have you tried some of the things that we suggested? Like started Apache without the workload to make sure Apache itself is okay?
