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    • Doyler3000D
      Doyler3000 @stacksofplates
      last edited by Doyler3000

      @stacksofplates
      Yes I just tried creating it with virsh and it was created without a problem.
      However starting it leads to the same error: The name is not activatable.

      I didn't realise virt-manager was being deprecated. Is there a replacement planned?

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      • brandon220B
        brandon220 @Doyler3000
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        @Doyler3000 Cockpit seems to be the contender to replace virt-manager. Still lacks some functionality but getting better with each update.

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        • FATeknollogeeF
          FATeknollogee @stacksofplates
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          @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

          Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

          Since when?

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          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @FATeknollogee
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            @FATeknollogee said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

            @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

            Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

            Since when?

            The release of RHEL 8. Cockpit is the replacement but it's not at feature parity yet. It feels like what VMware did with the web client and the thick client.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @stacksofplates
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              @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

              @FATeknollogee said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

              @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

              Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

              Since when?

              The release of RHEL 8. Cockpit is the replacement but it's not at feature parity yet. It feels like what VMware did with the web client and the thick client.

              did vmware ever get feature parity?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                @FATeknollogee said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                Since when?

                The release of RHEL 8. Cockpit is the replacement but it's not at feature parity yet. It feels like what VMware did with the web client and the thick client.

                Nice, and... that sucks.

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                • Doyler3000D
                  Doyler3000
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                  In the interests of "closure", the plethora of libvirt updates which came down the line yesterday from fedora seem to have fixed the problem. I can now create virtual networks again. Yay!

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                  • Doyler3000D
                    Doyler3000
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                    In the interests of reopening the previous closure, virtual networks are broken again. I can't create or start virtual networks. Same 'name is not activatable ' rubbish 😞
                    Annoying.

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                    • Doyler3000D
                      Doyler3000 @Doyler3000
                      last edited by

                      And in cockpit, clicking on virtual networks causes an "unexpected internal error". So much for that replacing virt-manager.

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @Doyler3000
                        last edited by

                        @Doyler3000 said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                        And in cockpit, clicking on virtual networks causes an "unexpected internal error". So much for that replacing virt-manager.

                        Are you teaming any network interfaces?
                        Even with the latest version of cockpit I was still getting the oops response.

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                        • Doyler3000D
                          Doyler3000 @black3dynamite
                          last edited by

                          @black3dynamite

                          I've got two physical interfaces in a team, on the bridge that the production VMs are on.

                          You think this relates to the "Ooops" ? or the "name not activatable" error?

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                          • black3dynamiteB
                            black3dynamite @Doyler3000
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                            @Doyler3000 said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                            @black3dynamite

                            I've got two physical interfaces in a team, on the bridge that the production VMs are on.

                            You think this relates to the "Ooops" ? or the "name not activatable" error?

                            Ooops only appears when I teamed physical interfaces so I think that's cockpit issue.Now I'm not sure about the other error you are getting

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                            • Emad RE
                              Emad R @stacksofplates
                              last edited by Emad R

                              @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                              Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                              Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @Emad R
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                                Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

                                Both virt-manager and cockpit just run virsh commands. So you could learn those.

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                                • Emad RE
                                  Emad R @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by Emad R

                                  @JaredBusch said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                  @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                  @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                  Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                                  Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

                                  Both virt-manager and cockpit just run viral commands. So you could learn those.

                                  I assume you said virsh, but since we are going that route how about I daydream and visualize the whole VM in my head since we want to take alot longer time to do simple tasks. That said Centos/RHEL 7 will be supported for 2024 and I doubt you need any new feature upgrades in a hypervisor. and dont text and drive .

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Emad R
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                                    @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                    @JaredBusch said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                    @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                    @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                    Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                                    Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

                                    Both virt-manager and cockpit just run viral commands. So you could learn those.

                                    I assume you said virsh, but since we are going that route how about I daydream and visualize the whole VM in my head since we want to take alot longer time to do simple tasks.

                                    Yeah, he's in the car.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                      @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                      @JaredBusch said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                      @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                      @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                      Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                                      Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

                                      Both virt-manager and cockpit just run viral commands. So you could learn those.

                                      I assume you said virsh, but since we are going that route how about I daydream and visualize the whole VM in my head since we want to take alot longer time to do simple tasks.

                                      Yeah, he's in the car.

                                      Dentist office actually. Just missed that getting autocorrected.

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite @Emad R
                                        last edited by

                                        @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                        @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                        Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                                        Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

                                        The web gui hardly use enough resources for you to even notice.

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                                        • Emad RE
                                          Emad R @black3dynamite
                                          last edited by Emad R

                                          @black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                          @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                          @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                          Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                                          Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

                                          The web gui hardly use enough resources for you to even notice.

                                          I do agree, cause I have split personality but that said I still want virt-manager to be around. It is very mature and snappy.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @Emad R
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                                            @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                            @black3dynamite said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                            @Emad-R said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                            @stacksofplates said in KVM on Fedora 30, Error creating virtual network:

                                            Can you create it with virsh? Wondering if it's just a virt-manager issue since they are deprecating it.

                                            Over my dead body. I love virt-manager they kick that out and I will be kicking them out. not everyone wants web gui using resources and being inefficient with VNC protocol and opening another port.

                                            The web gui hardly use enough resources for you to even notice.

                                            I do agree, cause I have split personality but that said I still want virt-manager to be around. It is very mature and snappy.

                                            Deprecated is probably the same as how ifconfig is deprecated it will be around forever.

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