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    • coliverC
      coliver
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      https://www.veeam.com/availability-console.html.
      Seems like it would fit your needs.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

        @DustinB3403 said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

        UrBackup can be hosted in a cloud environment and has agents. Supports windows, Linux and osx.

        But that would backup to the hosting location. This is for local backups.

        This is true, but you could also mount the cloud storage or use something like rclone to copy those files to any number of cloud storage providers.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

          I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

          I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

          No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

          I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

          The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

          I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

          If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

          The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

          Heh, what do ya know. It is!

          WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

          If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

            I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

            I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

            No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

            I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

            The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

            I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

            If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

            The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

            Heh, what do ya know. It is!

            WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

            WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
              last edited by

              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

              I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

              I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

              No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

              I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

              The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

              I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

              If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

              The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

              Heh, what do ya know. It is!

              WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

              WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.

              Everything backups up to the cloud or a hosting environment, it's the management from a central location that no one seems to have.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
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                @coliver said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

                If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.

                Yeah

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                  JasGot @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @Obsolesce said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                  I'm looking for a backup product for Microsoft Hyper-V VM's. (In this case running Windows VM's).

                  I need a central point of management, the ability to back up to local storage as well as a NAS, optional cloud storage would be nice.

                  No on prem 'appliance' for the backup wanted, just a software solution.

                  I've been using Altaro but found out today that you can't even do a file level restore unless you have a Server OS

                  The built-in Windows Server Backup with Windows Admin Center seems to fit these requirements.

                  I can't get WAC to connect to a single server reliable, let alone multiple servers on different domains across the Internet. Wouldn't this require a VPN connecting every company to each other? Seems like an incredible risk and crazy cumbersome. How else does WAC see the machines?

                  If you read, you'd see I was responding to the original post, which I didn't notice any mention of cross site, cross client, cross internet, etc.

                  The entire thread is about an MSP "multi site / multi tenant" approach. That's the context of the whole thing.

                  Heh, what do ya know. It is!

                  WAC would be great if there was some WAC API for centralizing WAC management.

                  WAC does allow easy backup and replication to Azure.

                  Everything backups up to the cloud or a hosting environment, it's the management from a central location that no one seems to have.

                  BackupAssist does.

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                    JasGot @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by JasGot

                    @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                    @coliver said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                    If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.

                    Yeah

                    BackupAssist does it this way. 🙂

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JasGot
                      last edited by

                      @JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                      @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                      @coliver said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                      If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.

                      Yeah

                      BackupAssist does it this way. 🙂

                      Definitely going to be testing that out.

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                      • CCWTechC
                        CCWTech
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                        I just did a demo for Nakivo.

                        To have central management you must setup a VPN between the server you host the central management on and the clients where the backup software is installed.

                        I sent them an email about how many MSP's have been hacked and had all of their clients infected. Oddly enough they didn't respond.

                        Reaching out (again) to BackupAssist. trying to get a demo going.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @CCWTech
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                          @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                          To have central management you must setup a VPN between the server you host the central management on and the clients where the backup software is installed.

                          Fail

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                          • CCWTechC
                            CCWTech @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                            @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                            To have central management you must setup a VPN between the server you host the central management on and the clients where the backup software is installed.

                            Fail

                            For sure! Run far away.

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                              JasGot @CCWTech
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                              @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                              Reaching out (again) to BackupAssist. trying to get a demo going.

                              Send me you contact info. I'll also ask them to come here......

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @JasGot
                                last edited by

                                @JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                Reaching out (again) to BackupAssist. trying to get a demo going.

                                Send me you contact info. I'll also ask them to come here......

                                Why not just direct them to the community and have them sign up?

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                                  JasGot
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                                  @CCWTech I hear they have been in contact with you. Let us know how your demo goes.

                                  I have no affiliation with them other than being a long time customer. We have their products installed on every server we manage.

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                                  • CCWTechC
                                    CCWTech @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    @coliver said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                    If the servers could be configure to reach out so there would be no need to open ports... that would be cool.

                                    Yeah

                                    BackupAssist does it this way. 🙂

                                    Definitely going to be testing that out.

                                    @scottalanmiller I just had a phone conversation with Craig at Backup Assist (they are members of this forum I believe). They are in the process of rolling out a product that may fit our needs. He's going to do some research and schedule a call. I will keep you in the loop.

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                                      JasGot @CCWTech
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                                      @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                      @scottalanmiller I just had a phone conversation with Craig at Backup Assist (they are members of this forum I believe). They are in the process of rolling out a product that may fit our needs. He's going to do some research and schedule a call. I will keep you in the loop.

                                      Just curious, what is unique about your needs that their Multisite Manager didn't address?

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                                      • CCWTechC
                                        CCWTech @JasGot
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                                        @JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                        @scottalanmiller I just had a phone conversation with Craig at Backup Assist (they are members of this forum I believe). They are in the process of rolling out a product that may fit our needs. He's going to do some research and schedule a call. I will keep you in the loop.

                                        Just curious, what is unique about your needs that their Multisite Manager didn't address?

                                        I'm not sure. When Craig called me and asked about what I was looking for, he mentioned that they are coming out with a new product in the very near future that may work the best. I haven't explored any further than that at this point.

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                                          JasGot @CCWTech
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                                          @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                          @scottalanmiller I just had a phone conversation with Craig at Backup Assist (they are members of this forum I believe). They are in the process of rolling out a product that may fit our needs. He's going to do some research and schedule a call. I will keep you in the loop.

                                          Just curious, what is unique about your needs that their Multisite Manager didn't address?

                                          I'm not sure. When Craig called me and asked about what I was looking for, he mentioned that they are coming out with a new product in the very near future that may work the best. I haven't explored any further than that at this point.

                                          Based on our conversation here, this may be all you need.
                                          https://www.backupassist.com/multisitemanager.html

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato @JasGot
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                                            @JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @JasGot said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @CCWTech said in MSP Backup Product - Local Storage:

                                            @scottalanmiller I just had a phone conversation with Craig at Backup Assist (they are members of this forum I believe). They are in the process of rolling out a product that may fit our needs. He's going to do some research and schedule a call. I will keep you in the loop.

                                            Just curious, what is unique about your needs that their Multisite Manager didn't address?

                                            I'm not sure. When Craig called me and asked about what I was looking for, he mentioned that they are coming out with a new product in the very near future that may work the best. I haven't explored any further than that at this point.

                                            Based on our conversation here, this may be all you need.
                                            https://www.backupassist.com/multisitemanager.html

                                            BackupAssist however is just a wrapped Management of Windows Server Backup, I used to recommend it but ever since using Veeam I have not moved back. The free version is phenomenal of the Veeam Backup Agent and if you have Exchange or SQL you can still pay for it or use the free up to 10 Community edition.

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