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    ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @kamidon
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      @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

      @srsmith But I'm spoiled though, performance can't be as good as windows right? I could just imagine the frame rate drops and stuttering now...
      Am I too picky? Haha

      Rumour is is that it is really good performance. Remember, this is NOT an emulator.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @dafyre
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        @dafyre said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

        @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

        @srsmith But I'm spoiled though, performance can't be as good as windows right? I could just imagine the frame rate drops and stuttering now...
        Am I too picky? Haha

        Actually, I played WoW using PlayOnLinux for a little bit during Cataclysm. WoW actually ran better on Linux than it did in Windows. I seriously need to get off my Lazy butt and get my laptop back on Linux again.

        Yeah, it's actually not hard to beat Windows at their own game, their own code is so bloated. Famously, 15 years ago, it was faster to virtualize Windows on top of Linux than to run it on bare better, because Linux was so much faster!

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        • kamidonK
          kamidon @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller Haha, yeah because the base is likely still Wine right? Wine is not an emulator!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
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            @black3dynamite said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

            @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

            The last time I used Linux (Ubuntu and years ago), I spent at least 6 hours trying to install graphics drivers hahaha...

            I'll have to give it another shot though with my HP Omen.

            Nvidia can be a pain on Fedora.

            Even on Windows.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @kamidon
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              @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

              @scottalanmiller Haha, yeah because the base is likely still Wine right? Wine is not an emulator!

              Right, Proton uses Wine for some things to keep from duplicating effort. Wine is simply Windows libraries rewritten as open source. So no emulation, all native.

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              • kamidonK
                kamidon @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                @black3dynamite said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                The last time I used Linux (Ubuntu and years ago), I spent at least 6 hours trying to install graphics drivers hahaha...

                I'll have to give it another shot though with my HP Omen.

                Nvidia can be a pain on Fedora.

                Even on Windows.

                *Sigh.........this is true...While playing Warhammer 2, Nvidia geforce experience keeps crashing randomly on me. I restart and it's fine.
                Before having this issue, I was having some other funky driver issue by Nvidia with the same game. Had to reinstall Windows (didn't mind though, it needed to be done)

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @kamidon
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                  @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                  @scottalanmiller said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                  @black3dynamite said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                  @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                  The last time I used Linux (Ubuntu and years ago), I spent at least 6 hours trying to install graphics drivers hahaha...

                  I'll have to give it another shot though with my HP Omen.

                  Nvidia can be a pain on Fedora.

                  Even on Windows.

                  *Sigh.........this is true...While playing Warhammer 2, Nvidia geforce experience keeps crashing randomly on me. I restart and it's fine.
                  Before having this issue, I was having some other funky driver issue by Nvidia with the same game. Had to reinstall Windows (didn't mind though, it needed to be done)

                  Maybe it will be more stable on Linux!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    Deepin, Ubuntu, and Fedora all have Steam built in natively, too!

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                    • kamidonK
                      kamidon @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Oh wow, that's badass.

                      Ugh, what about drivers though...I had a hell of a time installing nvidia drivers. I have a GTX 1070 in my HP Omen laptop, with a Gen 7 i7 something

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @kamidon
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                        @kamidon said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                        @scottalanmiller Oh wow, that's badass.

                        Ugh, what about drivers though...I had a hell of a time installing nvidia drivers. I have a GTX 1070 in my HP Omen laptop, with a Gen 7 i7 something

                        Under normal conditions, there is absolutely nothing to do. Just install and everything is handled for you. There are exceptions, normally with less common laptops using multiple graphics cards, but for normal Nvidia and Radeon, everything is so much easier than on Windows.

                        Ubuntu, for example, just install and select "third party drivers" during install and it handles everything for you, unlike Windows where you constantly have to deal with a buggy third party Nvidia installer than causes all kinds of problems.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22
                          last edited by wirestyle22

                          @scottalanmiller what distro are you using to game? I think proton is being tested most on Ubuntu but I have heard good things about Arch as well

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                            @wirestyle22 said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                            @scottalanmiller what distro are you using to game? I think proton is being tested most on Ubuntu but I have heard good things about Arch as well

                            I never use Arch, it's so goofy. Ubuntu and Fedora are what I use. Fedora is the only place I've tested Proton.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller How was the game compatibility versus the two? identical?

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                                @scottalanmiller How was the game compatibility versus the two? identical?

                                Yeah, never noticed anything.

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                                  srsmith @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller How's Fedora these days for daily desktop use? I haven't really looked at it since probably version 20, and only recently on the server side. From what I have seen though, it seems like a real nice choice.

                                  Solus and Ubuntu were what I saw most frequently recommended for Linux gaming. I can't stand Ubuntu, so I'll likely decide between Solus and Fedora.

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                                  • Emad RE
                                    Emad R @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    amazing tech, and works near-identical but due to anti cheat engines being in nature closed and deep-rooted in windows kernel many games won't work if they utilize anti-cheat

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                                    • kamidonK
                                      kamidon @Emad R
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                                      @Emad-R said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      amazing tech, and works near-identical but due to anti cheat engines being in nature closed and deep-rooted in windows kernel many games won't work if they utilize and anti-cheat

                                      Ohhhhh...yeah that's a problem lol

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @srsmith
                                        last edited by

                                        @srsmith said in ProtonDB: Look Up Windows Game Testing on Linux from Valve's Proton:

                                        @scottalanmiller How's Fedora these days for daily desktop use? I haven't really looked at it since probably version 20, and only recently on the server side. From what I have seen though, it seems like a real nice choice.

                                        Solus and Ubuntu were what I saw most frequently recommended for Linux gaming. I can't stand Ubuntu, so I'll likely decide between Solus and Fedora.

                                        I like Solus a lot, but so little is available for it. Fedora has been awesome for desktop use. I use Cinnamon with it.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Fedora 30 with Cinnamon is what I use on my desktop and my laptop. My dad uses it on his desktop, and is about to switch is laptop to it. @mary uses it for her desktop, and about to switch her laptop.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
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                                            Same for me. Fedora + Cinnamon. Been my installed OS on desktop and laptop since Fedora 25.

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