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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch
      last edited by

      They offer free service in the event of an outage.

      But if you are having outages, I'm likely to want ot move my services anyway So that is a a waste.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        @Curtis as for the rest of their services, this seems pretty on par with others.

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        • Emad RE
          Emad R @Emad R
          last edited by Emad R

          @Emad-R

          Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Emad R
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            @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

            @Emad-R

            Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

            So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

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              1337 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

              @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

              @Emad-R

              Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

              So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

              It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

              So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

              So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @1337
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                @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                @Emad-R

                Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

                So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

                So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

                And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.

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                  1337 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                  @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                  @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                  @Emad-R

                  Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                  So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                  It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

                  So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

                  So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

                  And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.

                  Yes, a server with dual AMD Epyc 7551 for instance has 32 cores per CPU so 64 real cores total.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                    @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                    @Emad-R

                    Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                    So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                    1 server with just under 200 GB RAM if all 500 VMs are Linux 😉

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @1337
                      last edited by

                      @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                      @Emad-R

                      Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                      So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                      It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.

                      So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.

                      So 1-2 servers sounds about right 🙂

                      And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.

                      Yes, a server with dual AMD Epyc 7551 for instance has 32 cores per CPU so 64 real cores total.

                      yeah, and that's just two CPUs, you could do more, in theory. And that's just AMD architecture. If we could do RISC systems, we could get even bigger!

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @Obsolesce said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                        @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                        @Emad-R

                        Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so

                        So like.... 1-2 servers 🙂

                        1 server with just under 200 GB RAM if all 500 VMs are Linux 😉

                        It's true. For the kinds of workloads used around here, that might actually work.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.

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                          • Emad RE
                            Emad R @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                            And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.

                            I'm learning a lot about LXD , and preparing video screen guide for ML

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Emad R
                              last edited by

                              @Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                              And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.

                              I'm learning a lot about LXD , and preparing video screen guide for ML

                              Awesome! It's GREAT technology. If you can fit within its limitations, pretty much nothing is going to work as well for you.

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                                dave_c
                                last edited by dave_c

                                Interesting benchmarks:
                                https://community.centminmod.com/threads/13-way-vps-server-benchmark-comparison-tests-upcloud-vs-digitalocean-vs-linode-vs-vultr-vs-hetzner.17742/

                                (edit) Warning: It is a long analysis. You can go to the summary at the end if you like.

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @dave_c
                                  last edited by

                                  @dave_c said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                                  Interesting benchmarks:
                                  https://community.centminmod.com/threads/13-way-vps-server-benchmark-comparison-tests-upcloud-vs-digitalocean-vs-linode-vs-vultr-vs-hetzner.17742/

                                  (edit) Warning: It is a long analysis. You can go to the summary at the end if you like.

                                  Great for Vultr if you don't mind having your data in the U.S.

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                                    dave_c @Obsolesce
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                                    @Obsolesce
                                    On the other hand, UpCloud was consistently good with some data centers outside of US

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                                    • Emad RE
                                      Emad R @dave_c
                                      last edited by

                                      @dave_c said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:

                                      UpCloud

                                      Vultr new service is killing everyone, I just wait for it to be available in other regions. Called high freq VMs

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                                        dave_c @Emad R
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                                        @Emad-R
                                        Absolutely. Two things:

                                        • They are new so servers are most likely not overloaded with VMs. Time will tell if they continue that way after the service gets popular
                                        • Depending on the configuration, they are more expensive
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