Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com
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@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so
So like.... 1-2 servers
It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.
So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.
So 1-2 servers sounds about right
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@Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so
So like.... 1-2 servers
It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.
So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.
So 1-2 servers sounds about right
And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.
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@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so
So like.... 1-2 servers
It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.
So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.
So 1-2 servers sounds about right
And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.
Yes, a server with dual AMD Epyc 7551 for instance has 32 cores per CPU so 64 real cores total.
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@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so
So like.... 1-2 servers
1 server with just under 200 GB RAM if all 500 VMs are Linux
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@Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Pete-S said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so
So like.... 1-2 servers
It would be interesting to know the vCPU to core count ratio on these cloud providers. I'm guessing 10-15 vCPUs on each real core.
So a 16 core server can have 160-240 VMs.
So 1-2 servers sounds about right
And you can often get way, way bigger core counts. Easy to get at least 64 cores on a single server.
Yes, a server with dual AMD Epyc 7551 for instance has 32 cores per CPU so 64 real cores total.
yeah, and that's just two CPUs, you could do more, in theory. And that's just AMD architecture. If we could do RISC systems, we could get even bigger!
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@Obsolesce said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
Plain KVM is so mature and everywhere I am starting to think we should all huddle up and create our own VPS service. I think between all ML we have around 500 VMs or so
So like.... 1-2 servers
1 server with just under 200 GB RAM if all 500 VMs are Linux
It's true. For the kinds of workloads used around here, that might actually work.
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And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.
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@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.
I'm learning a lot about LXD , and preparing video screen guide for ML
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@Emad-R said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
@scottalanmiller said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
And if you did LXC instead of KVM, it reduces RAM needs significantly. Because the kernel RAM is shared rather than repeated.
I'm learning a lot about LXD , and preparing video screen guide for ML
Awesome! It's GREAT technology. If you can fit within its limitations, pretty much nothing is going to work as well for you.
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Interesting benchmarks:
https://community.centminmod.com/threads/13-way-vps-server-benchmark-comparison-tests-upcloud-vs-digitalocean-vs-linode-vs-vultr-vs-hetzner.17742/(edit) Warning: It is a long analysis. You can go to the summary at the end if you like.
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@dave_c said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
Interesting benchmarks:
https://community.centminmod.com/threads/13-way-vps-server-benchmark-comparison-tests-upcloud-vs-digitalocean-vs-linode-vs-vultr-vs-hetzner.17742/(edit) Warning: It is a long analysis. You can go to the summary at the end if you like.
Great for Vultr if you don't mind having your data in the U.S.
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@Obsolesce
On the other hand, UpCloud was consistently good with some data centers outside of US -
@dave_c said in Another VPS Kid on the block upcloud.com:
UpCloud
Vultr new service is killing everyone, I just wait for it to be available in other regions. Called high freq VMs
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@Emad-R
Absolutely. Two things:- They are new so servers are most likely not overloaded with VMs. Time will tell if they continue that way after the service gets popular
- Depending on the configuration, they are more expensive
