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      dave_c @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller
      He has a business to run. Mailcow is a community based project; the project lead used to work full time on it but no longer. He is using mailcow in his hosting business
      Regarding the reliable process: I agree, at least in part
      Regarding the update break: It happened once and there were at least 2 ways of solving it. It wasn't a big problem but was a problem

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        dave_c @gtech
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        @gtech
        Why do you need a proxy?

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          scottalanmiller @dave_c
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          @dave_c said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

          @gtech
          Why do you need a proxy?

          Why wouldn't you? You don't want to just assign public IPs to your email web interface in most cases.

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            dave_c @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller
            I do not use a proxy for mailcow as it comes with the same nginx that I would use as a proxy. I have access to nginx.conf to make almost any adjustment I need

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              scottalanmiller @dave_c
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              @dave_c said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

              He has a business to run. Mailcow is a community based project; the project lead used to work full time on it but no longer. He is using mailcow in his hosting business

              He does, and there is nothing wrong with that. But no matter what the legitimate reason, it reflects very poorly on a product when it comes to considering whether we want to use it in production or not. Not that we are looking for support from the developer, but it is just "another piece of concern" along with the deployment methodology. That he isn't full time and has a hosting business with no full time people is a concern for people looking to use that, for sure!

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                scottalanmiller @dave_c
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                @dave_c said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                I do not use a proxy for mailcow as it comes with the same nginx that I would use as a proxy.

                I'm assuming you aren't running in a datacenter. We want it behind the same nginx proxy that all of our interfaces are behind. They all share one. That MailCow comes with one doesn't help us in any way.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  Not to say that it is bad that it has its own Nginx, but that seems like just extra complexity that doesn't need to be there, that adds more places for things to break.

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                    dave_c @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller
                    I am running it on rented servers and I understand why you want it to be behind you proxy

                    @scottalanmiller said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                    but that seems like just extra complexity that doesn't need to be there, that adds more places for things to break.

                    How would you serve the PHP code of the control panel if you are not including a web server within mailcow?

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                      scottalanmiller @dave_c
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                      @dave_c said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                      How would you serve the PHP code of the control panel if you are not including a web server within mailcow?

                      Same way that MailCow does... run it in its own instance that only does that. I don't know what they use, but I would guess Apache. The Docker instance in MailCow that runs the PHP code for the web server is called sogo-mailcow. The Nginx instance in MailCow that we are talking about is called nginx-mailcow and is a reverse proxy that does not run PHP.

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                        scottalanmiller @dave_c
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                        @dave_c said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                        I am running it on rented servers and I understand why you want it to be behind you proxy

                        If they just had it as an "on/off" option, I think including it is great. But it seems like bypassing it is cumbersome and might break future updates. That's a big problem here, sure I can get in under the hood and try to alter things, but will that work reliably as they deploy anew?

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                          stacksofplates
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                          What does your current docker-compose.yml file look like?

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                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                            @stacksofplates said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                            What does your current docker-compose.yml file look like?

                            I'll let you know once it installs. I've already started a fresh ground-up install.

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                              Curtis @stacksofplates
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                              @stacksofplates @scottalanmiller

                              https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized/blob/master/docker-compose.yml

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                                stacksofplates @Curtis
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                                @Curtis said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                                @stacksofplates @scottalanmiller

                                https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized/blob/master/docker-compose.yml

                                Yeah I know there's a default, I didn't know if he had changed it at all.

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                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                  @stacksofplates said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                                  @Curtis said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                                  @stacksofplates @scottalanmiller

                                  https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized/blob/master/docker-compose.yml

                                  Yeah I know there's a default, I didn't know if he had changed it at all.

                                  I had not, the default didn't work so I wasn't looking to modify it yet.

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                                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                                    @stacksofplates said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                                    @Curtis said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                                    @stacksofplates @scottalanmiller

                                    https://github.com/mailcow/mailcow-dockerized/blob/master/docker-compose.yml

                                    Yeah I know there's a default, I didn't know if he had changed it at all.

                                    I had not, the default didn't work so I wasn't looking to modify it yet.

                                    ok. Let me spin up a system with docker and compose. I've been using podman so I don't have the tools on my laptop.

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                                      stacksofplates
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                                      I was able to proxy through NGINX after running docker-compose up -d. I didn't use HTTPS because I'm lazy but it passed HTTP fine.

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                                        stacksofplates
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                                        It's just a simple config to test (again because I'm lazy):

                                        nginxconf.png

                                        mailcow.png

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                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Great, glad to hear that that works. I'll be testing it more once I see if it comes up at all. The first time it didn't at all, so you are two steps farther than we got 🙂

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                                            Curtis @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in MailCow in Production Datacenter:

                                            Great, glad to hear that that works. I'll be testing it more once I see if it comes up at all. The first time it didn't at all, so you are two steps farther than we got 🙂

                                            Let me know if you have issues and I'll make a video for you 🙂

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