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    Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

      Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

      I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

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        flaxking
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        I started with Learn Python the Hard Way. In order to get OOP I had to do a lot of playing with it. But after that it became natural to me and now I can't imagine how it took so long for me to get.

        My first real personal project was a local job web scraper that posted to Facebook. When you go through learning material you should always have a project in mind/on the back burner that you can mentally (and then actually) apply what you are learning to.

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          flaxking @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

          @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

          Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

          I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

          What language did you learn first?

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @JaredBusch
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            @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

            @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

            Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

            I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

            Because formatting. I don't see that as a deal breaker though.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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              @Obsolesce said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

              @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

              @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

              Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

              I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

              Because formatting. I don't see that as a deal breaker though.

              I actually find it very valuable for beginners.

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              • WrCombsW
                WrCombs @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

                Yes, You did. I made note.
                I'm not exactly a fan of it.. completely honest

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @flaxking
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                  @flaxking said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                  @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                  Here you go, a rundown on why Python...

                  I probably posted in most of those how much I hate python...

                  What language did you learn first?

                  Whatever form of BASIC the TRS-80 used.

                  Then, when I bought Windows 95 in the fall of 95, I also bought the VB4 book and proceeded to teach myself.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @flaxking
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                    @flaxking said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                    When you go through learning material you should always have a project in mind/on the back burner that you can mentally (and then actually) apply what you are learning to.

                    This is the most important thing.

                    You have to have an actual goal. When I was teaching myself VB4, I had ideas but no goals.

                    It definitely made things slower and I did give up without learning as much as I could have at the time.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                      Whatever form of BASIC the TRS-80 used.

                      Given your age, I can only imagine you used a late model TRS80 and not the shitty model I from 1977. If I'm right, then it was "standard" Microsoft BASIC.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                        @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                        Whatever form of BASIC the TRS-80 used.

                        Given your age, I can only imagine you used a late model TRS80 and not the shitty model I from 1977. If I'm right, then it was "standard" Microsoft BASIC.

                        I'm fairly certain it was TRSDOS, but mid 80's was a long time ago....

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                          @JaredBusch said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                          Whatever form of BASIC the TRS-80 used.

                          Given your age, I can only imagine you used a late model TRS80 and not the shitty model I from 1977. If I'm right, then it was "standard" Microsoft BASIC.

                          I'm fairly certain it was TRSDOS, but mid 80's was a long time ago....

                          TRSDOS was the OS name for Microsoft's BASIC on the TRS80.

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                          • WrCombsW
                            WrCombs
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                            after the kiddo got to bed last night I started thinking about coding a little and My future and what I want to do in IT - and I got to thinking :

                            Why do I want to look at Coding?

                            Because I want to Expand and try new things to see if I like it - I've been working with Computers/Point of sale for a year ( officially and studying/learning for at least 2.5-3 years ) It makes sense In my mind to look at other options such as Web Design (someone said something in this thread and I thought about it a little)
                            App building, software engineering ( i know we have a few of those guys running around here on ML) even Mark up languages like HMTL and CSS ( I dont know what careers come from those, but they're options... )
                            Why would I hold my self back from trying different things? (at least in mind my, Since im not exactly sure what I want to do. )
                            I started python, Sure.
                            Haven't started any projects yet, cause I dont understand Python. where as with HTML and CSS (so far) It makes sense- I put in what I want it to do and what I want to be there, and it works.
                            python looks like it's all math, basically up to this point.
                            In my mind right now - I want to try Building a website, A blog ( or something along those lines)

                            why?

                            because I want to see if I can!
                            I want to try different things and see what works for me and if it's something I can do- ultimately.
                            Under that, I feel like it'd be good practice to build a website from scratch, use mark ups and add python.
                            You guys have said multiple times "having a goal in mind while learning is best because if you dont you'll get distracted."

                            But how do I do that?

                            learning PHP as @bnrstnr said?

                            I've made a goal: I want to build a website this time.
                            Specifics on the website are still hazy, But I'm working on that.

                            SO - How do I start?
                            if the answer is python, skip it. because I'm already in the classes for python.

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @WrCombs
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                              @WrCombs Static page, stick with HTML. Dynamic stuff, PHP with MariaDB.

                              Most important thing when working with dynamic web pages is sanitizing any input.

                              https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png
                              https://xkcd.com/327/

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                              • WrCombsW
                                WrCombs @travisdh1
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                                @travisdh1 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                @WrCombs Static page, stick with HTML. Dynamic stuff, PHP with MariaDB.

                                Most important thing when working with dynamic web pages is sanitizing any input.

                                https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/exploits_of_a_mom.png
                                https://xkcd.com/327/

                                Just looking up difference between static and dynamic websites didn't do me any good.

                                what's the difference other than one is database server language(dynamic) and the other is html (static)

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                                • travisdh1T
                                  travisdh1 @WrCombs
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                                  @WrCombs Just what the words mean. Static = content doesn't change. Dynamic = content changes.

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                                  • WrCombsW
                                    WrCombs @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                    @WrCombs Just what the words mean. Static = content doesn't change. Dynamic = content changes.

                                    That's what I figured. but thanks for clarifying

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                                    • EddieJenningsE
                                      EddieJennings @WrCombs
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                                      @WrCombs said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                      why?

                                      because I want to see if I can!
                                      I want to try different things and see what works for me and if it's something I can do- ultimately.

                                      I can empathize with this concerning almost anything I want to learn.

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                                      • WrCombsW
                                        WrCombs @EddieJennings
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                                        @EddieJennings said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                        @WrCombs said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                        why?

                                        because I want to see if I can!
                                        I want to try different things and see what works for me and if it's something I can do- ultimately.

                                        I can empathize with this concerning almost anything I want to learn.

                                        at least im not the only one- plus it's great experience on resume's and in general.. IMO

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                                          1337 @travisdh1
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                                          @travisdh1 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                          @WrCombs Static page, stick with HTML. Dynamic stuff, PHP with MariaDB.

                                          Most important thing when working with dynamic web pages is sanitizing any input.

                                          I'm almost downvoting that one.

                                          Sanitizing is for losers, binding is for winners.
                                          :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

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                                          • travisdh1T
                                            travisdh1 @1337
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                                            @Pete-S said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Where to read Code? or Best practices to Learn Code?:

                                            @WrCombs Static page, stick with HTML. Dynamic stuff, PHP with MariaDB.

                                            Most important thing when working with dynamic web pages is sanitizing any input.

                                            I'm almost downvoting that one.

                                            Sanitizing is for losers, binding is for winners.
                                            :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_smiling_eyes:

                                            Well yeah, but there isn't a classic XKCD for binding 😛

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