I have $500 spare!
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Hey there! I finally found and decided where to spend this spare $500 of mine. I know you guys proved to me that it's just a very small amount, it's not ideal to use this and buy small business on Flippa, not even worth using to start a small IT Business(actually, not enough), and not even worth using to start a blog site('coz you don't know when you can get your investment back because monetization is very hard). I agree to all of you and thanks for that. Now, where I'm gonna use it? I thought about investing it on stock market, but, I don't think I can get that much from it.
So, I decided investing it to myself, yup you read it right.
$50 will go to Udemy courses, I think that's enough since they are always on sale, one course could probably cost around $12.00 only. I already have skill set to use for a freelance work but I thought eating more knowledge would help me more on my career, and I want more and more knowledge('coz it's me :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: ). While doing so, I'll create a profile in Upwork and will avail their $10/month Freelance plus plan and thinking about getting a year worth of subscription, so a total of $120.
After that, I'm going to avail a year of subscription on wordpress and build a landing page for my upwork profile. That will be around $60 for a Personal plan.
So the total is now at $185. I still have $315 left, which I probably be using to buy Connects on upwork ($1/connect), it's like a token in-site so I can submit a proposal to possible clients.
I know this is not something that I can say a good use of $500 but I'd say, it is a good move. Once I get my profile approved (might take weeks) in Upwork, I'm gonna open another thread and update you there until I land my first freelance work. :smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
Hey there! I finally found and decided where to spend this spare $500 of mine. I know you guys proved to me that it's just a very small amount, it's not ideal to use this and buy small business on Flippa, not even worth using to start a small IT Business(actually, not enough), and not even worth using to start a blog site('coz you don't know when you can get your investment back because monetization is very hard). I agree to all of you and thanks for that. Now, where I'm gonna use it? I thought about investing it on stock market, but, I don't think I can get that much from it.
So, I decided investing it to myself, yup you read it right.
$50 will go to Udemy courses, I think that's enough since they are always on sale, one course could probably cost around $12.00 only. I already have skill set to use for a freelance work but I thought eating more knowledge would help me more on my career, and I want more and more knowledge('coz it's me :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: ). While doing so, I'll create a profile in Upwork and will avail their $10/month Freelance plus plan and thinking about getting a year worth of subscription, so a total of $120.
After that, I'm going to avail a year of subscription on wordpress and build a landing page for my upwork profile. That will be around $60 for a Personal plan.
So the total is now at $185. I still have $315 left, which I probably be using to buy Connects on upwork ($1/connect), it's like a token in-site so I can submit a proposal to possible clients.
I know this is not something that I can say a good use of $500 but I'd say, it is a good move. Once I get my profile approved (might take weeks) in Upwork, I'm gonna open another thread and update you there until I land my first freelance work. :smiling_face_with_smiling_eyes:
I like the idea of training, but paying for upwork seems silly? I've worked there a few years ago and that was never a thing. It was free and clients pi ked you based on your portfolio and reviews.
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@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
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@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
Wow looks like a racket to to me. Not sure why they have to do this since they ake a fee from actual hours worked. They probably only do this to exploit the poor and unqualified talent which is extremely prevalent on these freelance sites.
The amount of useless talent is unreal on there. I wouldn't pay, I'd just do good work to stand out. Because free and paid members still have the same ability to create proposals. If your proposal is better than everyone else's proposal then you get the job, right?
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@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
Wow looks like a racket to to me. Not sure why they have to do this since they ake a fee from actual hours worked. They probably only do this to exploit the poor and unqualified talent which is extremely prevalent on these freelance sites.
The amount of useless talent is unreal on there. I wouldn't pay, I'd just do good work to stand out. Because free and paid members still have the same ability to create proposals. If your proposal is better than everyone else's proposal then you get the job, right?
You're right! Getting that freelancer plus thing wouldn't mean that much. I'd rather invest time on creating a great and pleasing proposal. I tried browsing some projects and most of them are looking for entry levels so I think I can still land my first client fast with the basic plan.
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@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
I like the idea of training, but paying for upwork seems silly? I've worked there a few years ago and that was never a thing.
I agree, Upwork feels like a bad place to invest.
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@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
Wow looks like a racket to to me. Not sure why they have to do this since they ake a fee from actual hours worked. They probably only do this to exploit the poor and unqualified talent which is extremely prevalent on these freelance sites.
The amount of useless talent is unreal on there. I wouldn't pay, I'd just do good work to stand out. Because free and paid members still have the same ability to create proposals. If your proposal is better than everyone else's proposal then you get the job, right?
You're right! Getting that freelancer plus thing wouldn't mean that much. I'd rather invest time on creating a great and pleasing proposal. I tried browsing some projects and most of them are looking for entry levels so I think I can still land my first client fast with the basic plan.
Has anyone tried Upwork and found there to be enough money to make the time work it?
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@scottalanmiller I'm yet to find out? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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@scottalanmiller said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
Wow looks like a racket to to me. Not sure why they have to do this since they ake a fee from actual hours worked. They probably only do this to exploit the poor and unqualified talent which is extremely prevalent on these freelance sites.
The amount of useless talent is unreal on there. I wouldn't pay, I'd just do good work to stand out. Because free and paid members still have the same ability to create proposals. If your proposal is better than everyone else's proposal then you get the job, right?
You're right! Getting that freelancer plus thing wouldn't mean that much. I'd rather invest time on creating a great and pleasing proposal. I tried browsing some projects and most of them are looking for entry levels so I think I can still land my first client fast with the basic plan.
Has anyone tried Upwork and found there to be enough money to make the time work it?
I browsed it a while back when deciding if I wanted to farm something out.
Wading through the shit took too much time. Will never look at again.
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@scottalanmiller said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
Wow looks like a racket to to me. Not sure why they have to do this since they ake a fee from actual hours worked. They probably only do this to exploit the poor and unqualified talent which is extremely prevalent on these freelance sites.
The amount of useless talent is unreal on there. I wouldn't pay, I'd just do good work to stand out. Because free and paid members still have the same ability to create proposals. If your proposal is better than everyone else's proposal then you get the job, right?
You're right! Getting that freelancer plus thing wouldn't mean that much. I'd rather invest time on creating a great and pleasing proposal. I tried browsing some projects and most of them are looking for entry levels so I think I can still land my first client fast with the basic plan.
Has anyone tried Upwork and found there to be enough money to make the time work it?
I've done a couple of jobs on Upwork and gotten paid for the work I did. It's not terrible, but I'll echo @JaredBusch 's comments... there's a lot of crap to wade through no matter which side of the fence you are on.
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@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
After that, I'm going to avail a year of subscription on wordpress and build a landing page for my upwork profile. That will be around $60 for a Personal plan.
We all know another place to get WP hosting.. <cough>hostadillo</cough>
If you are going to use a WP site, I assum that means you want to learn more about customizing WP, etc. Well doing it on WP.com is my last choice.
If you are going to tinker with really learning, you need it in a VPS. You can spin that up on Vultr for the same $60/year.
Then you can use their snapshot functionality to totally let you break shit.
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@JaredBusch said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
After that, I'm going to avail a year of subscription on wordpress and build a landing page for my upwork profile. That will be around $60 for a Personal plan.
We all know another place to get WP hosting.. <cough>hostadillo</cough>
If you are going to use a WP site, I assum that means you want to learn more about customizing WP, etc. Well doing it on WP.com is my last choice.
If you are going to tinker with really learning, you need it in a VPS. You can spin that up on Vultr for the same $60/year.
Then you can use their snapshot functionality to totally let you break shit.
I'll definitely include that on my checklist.
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@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@scottalanmiller I'm yet to find out? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
If you've not done it, I would avoid it. I have a suspicion that you are just going to throw your money away. Remember you are in high cost Canada now, places like Upwork are really designed for the super low cost third world locations. The idea is to drive to the bottom. In Canada, you'll easily cost too much to ever find work, or earn so little that it's not worth your time.
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@JaredBusch said in I have $500 spare!:
@scottalanmiller said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
Wow looks like a racket to to me. Not sure why they have to do this since they ake a fee from actual hours worked. They probably only do this to exploit the poor and unqualified talent which is extremely prevalent on these freelance sites.
The amount of useless talent is unreal on there. I wouldn't pay, I'd just do good work to stand out. Because free and paid members still have the same ability to create proposals. If your proposal is better than everyone else's proposal then you get the job, right?
You're right! Getting that freelancer plus thing wouldn't mean that much. I'd rather invest time on creating a great and pleasing proposal. I tried browsing some projects and most of them are looking for entry levels so I think I can still land my first client fast with the basic plan.
Has anyone tried Upwork and found there to be enough money to make the time work it?
I browsed it a while back when deciding if I wanted to farm something out.
Wading through the shit took too much time. Will never look at again.
I don't like it because of the model. It is handy for really discrete, low cost, low skill projects. But those are so rare, and anything serious you can't really trust through it because you lack all of the structure of a real business relationship.
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@scottalanmiller said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@scottalanmiller I'm yet to find out? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
If you've not done it, I would avoid it. I have a suspicion that you are just going to throw your money away. Remember you are in high cost Canada now, places like Upwork are really designed for the super low cost third world locations. The idea is to drive to the bottom. In Canada, you'll easily cost too much to ever find work, or earn so little that it's not worth your time.
Being located out of Canada is definitely an advantage on Upwork. The amount of horribly under-qualified people in India and Southeast Asia is unreal. Most employers on there will avoid those regions because literally 99% of them have absolutely no clue how to do basic functions let alone actual IT work. They have no issue lying to try to make any amount of money possible. You have a job that you want pay $10 in labor for, people that have no clue how to do that simple task will apply. Then they will lie to you in the application process. Then they will lie during the job, and just delay and ask for money. I have seen it on their a bunch for cheap jobs.
One of the best things you can do is keep your rate reasonably high. The higher your rate is on there, the more likely you are to obtain work. Maybe take on your first job or two at a cheap rate, but DO NOT WORK for pennies like these scam artists do. If anything it's a huge red flag
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@scottalanmiller said in I have $500 spare!:
@JaredBusch said in I have $500 spare!:
@scottalanmiller said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@IRJ Yep, I know right! But, with the current system of UpWork, I think this is the best way if I want to fully utilize their system. Thanks for the feedback though.
This is the difference in between plans. The basic is a free plan.
Wow looks like a racket to to me. Not sure why they have to do this since they ake a fee from actual hours worked. They probably only do this to exploit the poor and unqualified talent which is extremely prevalent on these freelance sites.
The amount of useless talent is unreal on there. I wouldn't pay, I'd just do good work to stand out. Because free and paid members still have the same ability to create proposals. If your proposal is better than everyone else's proposal then you get the job, right?
You're right! Getting that freelancer plus thing wouldn't mean that much. I'd rather invest time on creating a great and pleasing proposal. I tried browsing some projects and most of them are looking for entry levels so I think I can still land my first client fast with the basic plan.
Has anyone tried Upwork and found there to be enough money to make the time work it?
I browsed it a while back when deciding if I wanted to farm something out.
Wading through the shit took too much time. Will never look at again.
I don't like it because of the model. It is handy for really discrete, low cost, low skill projects. But those are so rare, and anything serious you can't really trust through it because you lack all of the structure of a real business relationship.
It is great when you find somebody well qualified for tasks that take a few hours. It is absolutely fantastic for that.
As I explained in my post, finding actual humans beings that are worth the pennies they ask for is the difficult part. LOL
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Have I got a deal of a lifetime for you! For only $500 USD I'll sell you the most pristine dephlogisticated air. The benefits include longer life, improved hearing and sense of smell. Act now before this offer is gone forever!
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@DustinB3403 said in I have $500 spare!:
Have I got a deal of a lifetime for you! For only $500 USD I'll sell you the most pristine dephlogisticated air. The benefits include longer life, improved hearing and sense of smell. Act now before this offer is gone forever!
Why do you have to be an asshole? I think he is asking a good legitimate question. $500 isn't alot of money, but I think he is being responsible by looking to invest it. The best way to become a good investor is to start small and understand how your money can grow or shrink. At the end of the day, 10% is 10%. If he can gain 10% with $500 that is a big step in the right direction to being able to invest more money in the future.
Also putting money into your career can easily 10x or even 100x your investment in dollar amount.
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@IRJ said in I have $500 spare!:
@scottalanmiller said in I have $500 spare!:
@darrel said in I have $500 spare!:
@scottalanmiller I'm yet to find out? :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
If you've not done it, I would avoid it. I have a suspicion that you are just going to throw your money away. Remember you are in high cost Canada now, places like Upwork are really designed for the super low cost third world locations. The idea is to drive to the bottom. In Canada, you'll easily cost too much to ever find work, or earn so little that it's not worth your time.
Being located out of Canada is definitely an advantage on Upwork. The amount of horribly under-qualified people in India and Southeast Asia is unreal. Most employers on there will avoid those regions because literally 99% of them have absolutely no clue how to do basic functions let alone actual IT work.
Does that not cause people to just avoid Upwork rather than looking to see where people are located? I know it does to me. Knowing that the average is so bad, it makes us avoid the platform. Plus US and Canadian hiring through it comes with big potential HR risks that other countries do not. I've not looked, but does Upwork tell people where you are located?
