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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @mroth911
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      @mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:

      really

      Yup, we've been using that all in production for a while (Collabora is the only recent part.) Collabora takes LibreOffice and makes it hosted in your web browser so that it launches right from inside of your NextCloud storage.

      It's a pretty nice package.

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        mroth911 @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller nice I am paying 12.50 @ 10 accounts . For a small business its not cost affective. I dont have ad..

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @mroth911
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          @mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:

          @scottalanmiller nice I am paying 12.50 @ 10 accounts . For a small business its not cost affective. I dont have ad..

          Ours run on our Scale HC3 cluster and probably costs around $15/mo beyond that, mostly for MailGun.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Don't forget to factor backup, spam filtering, etc.

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              1337 @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

              MailGun

              Is that the same type of service as Sendgrid? Do you send all outgoing mail through it?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @1337
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                @Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:

                @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                MailGun

                Is that the same type of service as Sendgrid? Do you send all outgoing mail through it?

                That's correct. We've had better luck with MailGun, though. Used both and I like SendGrid, but their deliverability wasn't very good.

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                • dafyreD
                  dafyre
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                  Apparently Twillio is buying Sendgrid...

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                    Harry Lui
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                    https://www.rackspace.com/en-us/email-hosting

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                    • jmooreJ
                      jmoore @Harry Lui
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                      @Harry-Lui That is what I use for my sites. Its a nice little service.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                        MailCow is what we are looking at. @Alex-Sage recommends it. It looks promising.

                        https://mailcow.email/

                        You just never sit still.

                        I thought you were against self hosted email for most?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said in Building a Mail Server:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                          MailCow is what we are looking at. @Alex-Sage recommends it. It looks promising.

                          https://mailcow.email/

                          You just never sit still.

                          I thought you were against self hosted email for most?

                          For most, but it's...

                          1. Not truly self hosting, MailGun is our actual MTA.
                          2. We have the expertise to make it a non-issue for support.
                          3. Our needs are relatively unique and the cost for hosted is extreme, we were going to go with Zoho till they did their 50% price increase.
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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                            @Dashrender said in Building a Mail Server:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                            MailCow is what we are looking at. @Alex-Sage recommends it. It looks promising.

                            https://mailcow.email/

                            You just never sit still.

                            I thought you were against self hosted email for most?

                            For most, but it's...

                            1. Not truly self hosting, MailGun is our actual MTA.
                            2. We have the expertise to make it a non-issue for support.
                            3. Our needs are relatively unique and the cost for hosted is extreme, we were going to go with Zoho till they did their 50% price increase.

                            the reason I actually asked that is - because no one asked the OP why he wants/needs to host his own email server. I'm more than a bit surprised by this.

                            Sure there are times when you need to, but that seems like the place to start.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender I would assume he is currently using a hosting service, and based on @mroth911 most recent posts is looking to cut as much cost wherever possible, and utilize his server infrastructure to the maximum capacity without any continuous monthly spend for services that he could host himself.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                @Dashrender said in Building a Mail Server:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                                @Dashrender said in Building a Mail Server:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:

                                MailCow is what we are looking at. @Alex-Sage recommends it. It looks promising.

                                https://mailcow.email/

                                You just never sit still.

                                I thought you were against self hosted email for most?

                                For most, but it's...

                                1. Not truly self hosting, MailGun is our actual MTA.
                                2. We have the expertise to make it a non-issue for support.
                                3. Our needs are relatively unique and the cost for hosted is extreme, we were going to go with Zoho till they did their 50% price increase.

                                the reason I actually asked that is - because no one asked the OP why he wants/needs to host his own email server. I'm more than a bit surprised by this.

                                Sure there are times when you need to, but that seems like the place to start.

                                Because most of us have seen lots of threads from him and have an idea of what his situation is.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said in Building a Mail Server:

                                  @Dashrender I would assume he is currently using a hosting service, and based on @mroth911 most recent posts is looking to cut as much cost wherever possible, and utilize his server infrastructure to the maximum capacity without any continuous monthly spend for services that he could host himself.

                                  Given his other posts, he may also be looking to be a provider himself. No idea if that is true, but reasonable.

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                                    1337 @scottalanmiller
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                                    If you put cpanel on a server - not saying you should - but don't you get a complete mail setup with dovecot, postfix, spamassasin and the whole shebang? And then set it to relay smtp through mailgun.

                                    Isn't that what all those website and email providers do? Or are they each running custom configs?

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                                    • brandon220B
                                      brandon220
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                                      Check out mxroute.com. Seems very affordable.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @1337
                                        last edited by

                                        @Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:

                                        If you put cpanel on a server - not saying you should - but don't you get a complete mail setup with dovecot, postfix, spamassasin and the whole shebang? And then set it to relay smtp through mailgun.

                                        Isn't that what all those website and email providers do? Or are they each running custom configs?

                                        Yes, and no business considers that an email solution. Yes, it technically sends and receives email, but in a nearly useless fashion.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @brandon220
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                                          @brandon220 said in Building a Mail Server:

                                          Check out mxroute.com. Seems very affordable.

                                          That does, actually. Anyone used them before?

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                                          • StrongBadS
                                            StrongBad @1337
                                            last edited by

                                            @Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:

                                            If you put cpanel on a server - not saying you should - but don't you get a complete mail setup with dovecot, postfix, spamassasin and the whole shebang? And then set it to relay smtp through mailgun.

                                            Isn't that what all those website and email providers do? Or are they each running custom configs?

                                            Typically they only offer IMAP and POP, even a web interface is rare. It's normally very basic email, not "groupware" like most business mean with calendars and stuff. So you have to bring your own IMAP client.

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