Building a Mail Server
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Even when we were on Office 365, we didn't use Outlook. Literally the worst thing that ever happened to email. Outlook is truly awful. OWA is better, still not great. But way easier to manage, and more reliable.
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In rare cases where we need a client, Thunderbird and MailSpring are pretty good.
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Is there like an on premise 365 type deal? IDK just asking.
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@mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:
Is there like an on premise 365 type deal? IDK just asking.
Not sure what you mean.
Office 365 is the hosted version of Exchange. Are you thinking of Exchange as being the on-premise version of O365?
Zimbra is the mail server. As is MailCow. It goes wherever you want it.
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Ok. like the whole bundle .. exchange, word excel. Etc.
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We ran on Zimbra for mail years, then tried Rackspace and O365, but returned to Zimbra. Zimbra is solid and pretty easy to use and "just works". It's got a lot of features. Biggest complaint is that they used to be the absolute leader in email GUIs, now they are trailing terribly having not updated for around a dozen years.
Last year they promised a major new update, then silently dropped it. So a lot of people are losing faith in where they are headed.
MailCow addresses that a lot more aggressively.
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@mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:
Ok. like the whole bundle .. exchange, word excel. Etc.
OH!
No one makes a single thing like that. But putting your own together is not a big deal. We use Zimbra, NextCloud, and Collabora. It all integrates and gives you storage like OneDrive, email like Exchange, word processing, spreadsheet, and presentation software.
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We then add Rocket.chat instead of MS Teams. We use a normal wiki instead of Sharepoint. Nextcloud replicates the non-wiki parts of Sharepoint file storage.
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really
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@mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:
really
Yup, we've been using that all in production for a while (Collabora is the only recent part.) Collabora takes LibreOffice and makes it hosted in your web browser so that it launches right from inside of your NextCloud storage.
It's a pretty nice package.
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@scottalanmiller nice I am paying 12.50 @ 10 accounts . For a small business its not cost affective. I dont have ad..
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@mroth911 said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller nice I am paying 12.50 @ 10 accounts . For a small business its not cost affective. I dont have ad..
Ours run on our Scale HC3 cluster and probably costs around $15/mo beyond that, mostly for MailGun.
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Don't forget to factor backup, spam filtering, etc.
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@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
MailGun
Is that the same type of service as Sendgrid? Do you send all outgoing mail through it?
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@Pete-S said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
MailGun
Is that the same type of service as Sendgrid? Do you send all outgoing mail through it?
That's correct. We've had better luck with MailGun, though. Used both and I like SendGrid, but their deliverability wasn't very good.
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Apparently Twillio is buying Sendgrid...
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@Harry-Lui That is what I use for my sites. Its a nice little service.
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@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
MailCow is what we are looking at. @Alex-Sage recommends it. It looks promising.
You just never sit still.
I thought you were against self hosted email for most?
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@Dashrender said in Building a Mail Server:
@scottalanmiller said in Building a Mail Server:
MailCow is what we are looking at. @Alex-Sage recommends it. It looks promising.
You just never sit still.
I thought you were against self hosted email for most?
For most, but it's...
- Not truly self hosting, MailGun is our actual MTA.
- We have the expertise to make it a non-issue for support.
- Our needs are relatively unique and the cost for hosted is extreme, we were going to go with Zoho till they did their 50% price increase.
