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    • hobbit666H
      hobbit666
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      Hyper-V could be an option but never liked it 🙂

      So Virtual Box maybe an option

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @hobbit666
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        @hobbit666 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

        Hyper-V could be an option but never liked it 🙂

        So Virtual Box maybe an option

        Okay so Hyper-V is off the table, assuming that is why you're looking at KVM. With that, either you can attempt the Cygwin route to install Virt-Manager (I've never tested this) or go down the Type 2 hypervisor route.

        Or (and a more extreme route) you could reload your daily driver to dual boot and have Fedora Workstation with just Virt-Manager. But that also seems like overkill.

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        • hobbit666H
          hobbit666 @DustinB3403
          last edited by

          @DustinB3403 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

          Or (and a more extreme route) you could reload your daily driver to dual boot and have Fedora Workstation with just Virt-Manager. But that also seems like overkill.

          Not that Overkill 🙂 my plan for my daily driver is to up the SSD and then dual boot.

          Dual boot as this machine may need to be used as a Windows 10 machine for someone to log in if i'm on holiday, as they will get lost with Linux 🙂

          Then look at moving away from Windows as my Daily driver.

          *** Well at least one day ***

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          • WrCombsW
            WrCombs @hobbit666
            last edited by

            @hobbit666 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

            @DustinB3403 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

            Or (and a more extreme route) you could reload your daily driver to dual boot and have Fedora Workstation with just Virt-Manager. But that also seems like overkill.

            Not that Overkill 🙂 my plan for my daily driver is to up the SSD and then dual boot.

            Dual boot as this machine may need to be used as a Windows 10 machine for someone to log in if i'm on holiday, as they will get lost with Linux 🙂

            Then look at moving away from Windows as my Daily driver.

            Well at least one day

            FTFY

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

              @hobbit666 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

              OK so i've added the 2nd hard drive to Fedora, formatted and mounted.

              I'm now struggling on how to manage the system and VM's.
              I'm using Cockpit and it's ok for basic maintenance. But can't get it create the VM on the 2nd drive.

              I've installed virt-manager but not sure how to "connect" to it from my machine.

              Using Virt-Manager you need to create a storage pool.

              You can still create the storage pool via Cockpit.
              05c17942-c500-405b-9225-1ee0f1d479db-image.png

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                @DustinB3403 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                @hobbit666 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                OK so i've added the 2nd hard drive to Fedora, formatted and mounted.

                I'm now struggling on how to manage the system and VM's.
                I'm using Cockpit and it's ok for basic maintenance. But can't get it create the VM on the 2nd drive.

                I've installed virt-manager but not sure how to "connect" to it from my machine.

                Using Virt-Manager you need to create a storage pool.

                You can still create the storage pool via Cockpit.
                05c17942-c500-405b-9225-1ee0f1d479db-image.png

                I know you can. But it's not nearly as intuitive to do through cockpit.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @hobbit666
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                  @hobbit666 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                  I'm using Cockpit and it's ok for basic maintenance. But can't get it create the VM on the 2nd drive.

                  By default when creating a VM using cockpit, your VMs will be located in the following locations depending on what you select for QEMU/KVM connections.

                  QEMU/KVM System Connection
                  /var/lib/libvirt/images/vm.qcow2

                  QEMU/KVM User Connection
                  ~/.local/share/libvirt/images/vm.qcow2

                  Virt-Manager makes it easier to select a different storage pool for your VMs.

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                  • wrx7mW
                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                    @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    But there is in no way the general expectation that a Type 1 hypervisor is and should also be capable of being a daily driver.

                    This is where you go off the rails. Since this is common and everyone knows that this is a normal expectation, why would you state something that you know can't be true?

                    People need desktop virtualization all of the time. And in the modern market, there is essentially no reason to ever look at the only good Type 2, VirtualBox, because it is not nearly as good as Hyper-V or KVM. It's not as fast, or not as safe, and certainly not as easy.

                    The only reason anyone still considers Type 2 is because some people want Windows Home, and there is no Type 1 option.

                    I can see for Gamers who also need to do some VMs they may not want the Hyper-V overhead and would aim for type 2.... I hae no idea how much overhead Hyper-V actually introduces though.

                    I thought that at one point, but it is essentially zero. Gaming is fine with it.

                    So you run games in a guest VM?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @wrx7m
                      last edited by

                      @wrx7m said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                      @scottalanmiller said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                      @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      But there is in no way the general expectation that a Type 1 hypervisor is and should also be capable of being a daily driver.

                      This is where you go off the rails. Since this is common and everyone knows that this is a normal expectation, why would you state something that you know can't be true?

                      People need desktop virtualization all of the time. And in the modern market, there is essentially no reason to ever look at the only good Type 2, VirtualBox, because it is not nearly as good as Hyper-V or KVM. It's not as fast, or not as safe, and certainly not as easy.

                      The only reason anyone still considers Type 2 is because some people want Windows Home, and there is no Type 1 option.

                      I can see for Gamers who also need to do some VMs they may not want the Hyper-V overhead and would aim for type 2.... I hae no idea how much overhead Hyper-V actually introduces though.

                      I thought that at one point, but it is essentially zero. Gaming is fine with it.

                      So you run games in a guest VM?

                      With Hyper-V and Windows 10, your Windows 10 installation becomes the management domain for Hyper-V.

                      So no, it's not a VM.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                        @wrx7m said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                        @scottalanmiller said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                        @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        But there is in no way the general expectation that a Type 1 hypervisor is and should also be capable of being a daily driver.

                        This is where you go off the rails. Since this is common and everyone knows that this is a normal expectation, why would you state something that you know can't be true?

                        People need desktop virtualization all of the time. And in the modern market, there is essentially no reason to ever look at the only good Type 2, VirtualBox, because it is not nearly as good as Hyper-V or KVM. It's not as fast, or not as safe, and certainly not as easy.

                        The only reason anyone still considers Type 2 is because some people want Windows Home, and there is no Type 1 option.

                        I can see for Gamers who also need to do some VMs they may not want the Hyper-V overhead and would aim for type 2.... I hae no idea how much overhead Hyper-V actually introduces though.

                        I thought that at one point, but it is essentially zero. Gaming is fine with it.

                        So you run games in a guest VM?

                        With Hyper-V and Windows 10, your Windows 10 installation becomes the management domain for Hyper-V.

                        So no, it's not a VM.

                        Still a VM. Just the prioritized one.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                          last edited by

                          @wrx7m said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                          @scottalanmiller said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                          @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          But there is in no way the general expectation that a Type 1 hypervisor is and should also be capable of being a daily driver.

                          This is where you go off the rails. Since this is common and everyone knows that this is a normal expectation, why would you state something that you know can't be true?

                          People need desktop virtualization all of the time. And in the modern market, there is essentially no reason to ever look at the only good Type 2, VirtualBox, because it is not nearly as good as Hyper-V or KVM. It's not as fast, or not as safe, and certainly not as easy.

                          The only reason anyone still considers Type 2 is because some people want Windows Home, and there is no Type 1 option.

                          I can see for Gamers who also need to do some VMs they may not want the Hyper-V overhead and would aim for type 2.... I hae no idea how much overhead Hyper-V actually introduces though.

                          I thought that at one point, but it is essentially zero. Gaming is fine with it.

                          So you run games in a guest VM?

                          Correct

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                            @wrx7m said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                            @scottalanmiller said in KVM Desktop Setup Ideas:

                            @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            But there is in no way the general expectation that a Type 1 hypervisor is and should also be capable of being a daily driver.

                            This is where you go off the rails. Since this is common and everyone knows that this is a normal expectation, why would you state something that you know can't be true?

                            People need desktop virtualization all of the time. And in the modern market, there is essentially no reason to ever look at the only good Type 2, VirtualBox, because it is not nearly as good as Hyper-V or KVM. It's not as fast, or not as safe, and certainly not as easy.

                            The only reason anyone still considers Type 2 is because some people want Windows Home, and there is no Type 1 option.

                            I can see for Gamers who also need to do some VMs they may not want the Hyper-V overhead and would aim for type 2.... I hae no idea how much overhead Hyper-V actually introduces though.

                            I thought that at one point, but it is essentially zero. Gaming is fine with it.

                            So you run games in a guest VM?

                            With Hyper-V and Windows 10, your Windows 10 installation becomes the management domain for Hyper-V.

                            So no, it's not a VM.

                            It's a VM.

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                            • hobbit666H
                              hobbit666
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                              So following on from the Other thread.

                              Looks like i'm heading to the Install KVM, setup a Linux VM and use that to manage the KVM server from that.

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