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    • mroth911M
      mroth911
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      OK, Sorry So, Here is there deal. I have a scale cluster that I can't manage. It is 3 years old and the support contract is not affordable, I am a small business. I have no way to maintain it. So I want to build something That I can manage and administer etc. I have 3 Dell R710, That I would Like to setup. I have a D2D4324 - G2 with 96gb for ram and 20tb..

      Thats what I am trying to do I dont like shared storage. Its a single point of failure.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @mroth911
        last edited by

        @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

        OK, Sorry So, Here is there deal. I have a scale cluster that I can't manage. It is 3 years old and the support contract is not affordable, I am a small business. I have no way to maintain it. So I want to build something That I can manage and administer etc. I have 3 Dell R710, That I would Like to setup. I have a D2D4324 - G2 with 96gb for ram and 20tb..

        Thats what I am trying to do I dont like shared storage. Its a single point of failure.

        The support contact on the Scale is that much more than the support contact on new servers? Or even the extended warranty on the scale servers - assuming Dell will let you get it directly? Or is the plan to run with no warranty support from the hardware vendor at all?

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        • mroth911M
          mroth911 @mroth911
          last edited by

          the specs for the dell servers are 2 quad core each have 64gb of ram and 4tb of space.

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          • mroth911M
            mroth911 @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender No warranty on hardware. I am not big enough to get contracts etc.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @mroth911
              last edited by

              @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

              @Dashrender No warranty on hardware. I am not big enough to get contracts etc.

              Do you need to host this yourself then? Any chance you can use Vultr or any of the other IPSs we talk about around here?

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                I'm assuming you require HA from a Scale type offering and that is why you are looking at oVirt. But I'm just confirming that you actually require this.

                Since you said you're so small that you can't get support.

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                • mroth911M
                  mroth911 @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender Yeah I host everything myself. I have a 42U in my office with 500mb fiber. and 30 static

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                  • mroth911M
                    mroth911 @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 yes that is correct. I have a scale cluster already 1150. But its 3 years old. Harddrives are failing. And I cant manage it at all. It just runs and that's it.

                    Afraid if it craps out I am screwed.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Ovirt:

                      @DustinB3403 said in Ovirt:

                      I'm assuming you require HA from a Scale type offering and that is why you are looking at oVirt. But I'm just confirming that you actually require this.

                      Since you said you're so small that you can't get support.

                      Thanks for fucking up another thread.

                      @scottalanmiller can you split this.

                      What the fuck are you on about. He has a scale solution today, and is needing to move to oVirt because he can't afford the support.

                      Hence the question, do you actually require HA?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @mroth911
                        last edited by

                        @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

                        @DustinB3403 yes that is correct. I have a scale cluster already 1150. But its 3 years old. Harddrives are failing. And I cant manage it at all. It just runs and that's it.

                        Afraid if it craps out I am screwed.

                        Why can't you manage the Scale cluster? The demos I've seen seem to make it super simple. Didn't seem that hard to manage.

                        If it's failing drives - buy the drives direct from the manufacturer, done.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @mroth911
                          last edited by

                          @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

                          @DustinB3403 yes that is correct. I have a scale cluster already 1150. But its 3 years old. Harddrives are failing. And I cant manage it at all. It just runs and that's it.

                          Afraid if it craps out I am screwed.

                          So to ask a few questions.

                          • what about the scale system are you unable to support?
                          • is cost the only thing that makes the scale system unsupportable?
                          • if you are concerned about the scale solution dieing and support issues for that, how does moving to oVirt fix those concerns besides support contracts?
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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            @DustinB3403 said in Ovirt:

                            @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

                            @DustinB3403 yes that is correct. I have a scale cluster already 1150. But its 3 years old. Harddrives are failing. And I cant manage it at all. It just runs and that's it.

                            Afraid if it craps out I am screwed.

                            So to ask a few questions.

                            • what about the scale system are you unable to support?
                            • is cost the only thing that makes the scale system unsupportable?
                            • if you are concerned about the scale solution dieing and support issues for that, how does moving to oVirt fix those concerns besides support contracts?

                            Thanks for making my point.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                              last edited by

                              @Dashrender said in Ovirt:

                              If it's failing drives - buy the drives direct from the manufacturer, done

                              Exactly my thought, and my question relates directly to the obvious answer. Scale uses hardware raid. So replacing the drives should be the easy part.

                              @ScaleLegion if a support contract ends do your customers lose access to system updates? Or do they lose access to the Scale team?

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                              • mroth911M
                                mroth911 @DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                @DustinB3403 said in Ovirt:

                                So to ask a few questions.

                                what about the scale system are you unable to support?
                                So here was a situation that I had, A hard drive failed and the system wouldn't recognize the new harddrive I put in. So I had to call them to do something in the backend to active port 2 to reanalyze and make the drive active
                                is cost the only thing that makes the scale system unsupportable?
                                Yes cost I want to know commands to make sure if something goes wrong I can fix it.

                                if you are concerned about the scale solution dieing and support issues for that, how does moving to oVirt fix those concerns besides support contracts?

                                I would build it and know the bones and how it function. Beside the hardware I will know how. to fix things if it breaks.m

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @mroth911
                                  last edited by

                                  @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Ovirt:

                                  So to ask a few questions.

                                  what about the scale system are you unable to support?
                                  So here was a situation that I had, A hard drive failed and the system wouldn't recognize the new harddrive I put in. So I had to call them to do something in the backend to active port 2 to reanalyze and make the drive active
                                  is cost the only thing that makes the scale system unsupportable?
                                  Yes cost I want to know commands to make sure if something goes wrong I can fix it.

                                  if you are concerned about the scale solution dieing and support issues for that, how does moving to oVirt fix those concerns besides support contracts?

                                  I would build it and know the bones and how it function. Beside the hardware I will know how. to fix things if it breaks.m

                                  But no one else will. So the company is in the same place they are now.

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                                  • mroth911M
                                    mroth911 @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by

                                    @JaredBusch Its all me with my company.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @mroth911
                                      last edited by DustinB3403

                                      Posted for formatting

                                      @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Ovirt:
                                      So to ask a few questions.

                                      what about the scale system are you unable to support?

                                      So here was a situation that I had, A hard drive failed and the system wouldn't recognize the new harddrive I put in. So I had to call them to do something in the backend to active port 2 to reanalyze and make the drive active

                                      is cost the only thing that makes the scale system unsupportable?

                                      Yes cost I want to know commands to make sure if something goes wrong I can fix it.

                                      if you are concerned about the scale solution dieing and support issues for that, how does moving to oVirt fix those concerns besides support contracts?

                                      I would build it and know the bones and how it function. Beside the hardware I will know how. to fix things if it breaks.m

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                                      • DustinB3403D
                                        DustinB3403 @mroth911
                                        last edited by

                                        @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

                                        @JaredBusch Its all me with my company.

                                        So this is for your own personal business.

                                        To ask the question again, does your own personal business actually require HA? Or would Near-HA be good enough?

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @mroth911
                                          last edited by

                                          @mroth911 said in Ovirt:

                                          @DustinB3403 said in Ovirt:

                                          So to ask a few questions.

                                          what about the scale system are you unable to support?
                                          So here was a situation that I had, A hard drive failed and the system wouldn't recognize the new harddrive I put in. So I had to call them to do something in the backend to active port 2 to reanalyze and make the drive active
                                          is cost the only thing that makes the scale system unsupportable?
                                          Yes cost I want to know commands to make sure if something goes wrong I can fix it.

                                          if you are concerned about the scale solution dieing and support issues for that, how does moving to oVirt fix those concerns besides support contracts?

                                          I would build it and know the bones and how it function. Beside the hardware I will know how. to fix things if it breaks.m

                                          I don't consider this reasonable. Unless you already know oVirt very well - you'll be learning while you have outages. Which means your outages will be longer than they need to be while you're learning - or, you'll be paying someone to help you fix it fast.

                                          Of course this is your option, but it seems like the wrong place to spend you time. What is your business? Web deving? or providing hosting? or both?

                                          I know Scott does both with Hostadillo - but he doesn't use his own hardware - he offloads that to Vultr. It's not worth his time/effort, etc to manage the hardware. He resells Vultr(or others) hosting while also selling web deving.

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                                          • mroth911M
                                            mroth911
                                            last edited by

                                            To ask the question again, does your own personal business actually require HA? Or would Near-HA be good enough?

                                            I would like the avaliblity that if one server goes off, the whole things doesn't shit the bed.

                                            Running web servers, PBX Servers, Jira server, DC's

                                            and some other custom stuff for doctors to get into .

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