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    Free Veeam for DGraph Linux Restore

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    • notverypunnyN
      notverypunny @Jimmy9008
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      @Jimmy9008 Just guessing here, but it probably has something to do with the Windows agent using VSS to capture an exact "moment in time" for the backup. To achieve the same result the linux one would require something like btrfs integration or another snapshot-type mechanism. Assuming that the linux agent is simply doing a file copy and the db is still live during the copy, the backed-up data is not being captured in a consistent state and ends up as a useful as a bowl of puke.

      As far as other tools... is this a physical machine or a VM?

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        Jimmy9008 @notverypunny
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        @notverypunny

        This is a VM. CentOS 7. From what I gather the Linux Veeam agent is taking a complete image...

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        • notverypunnyN
          notverypunny @Jimmy9008
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          @Jimmy9008 Since it's a vm, do you have the option to capture at the VM or hypervisor storage level? Something like Xen-Orchestra or Veeam Zip?

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            Jimmy9008 @notverypunny
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            @notverypunny

            I dont think so...

            The host is HyperV server. Doesn't Veeam Zip require a license for use, or to be able to set a backup schedule...

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            • notverypunnyN
              notverypunny @Jimmy9008
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              @Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                @Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                @notverypunny

                I dont think so...

                The host is HyperV server. Doesn't Veeam Zip require a license for use, or to be able to set a backup schedule...

                Hyper-V backup API is always free.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  I dont know Dgraf but almost certainly some process is holding the data files open and you havent identified it yet.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @notverypunny
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                    @notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                    @Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.

                    It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.

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                      notverypunny @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                      @notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                      @Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.

                      It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.

                      That's what I thought, but my only experience with Hyper-V has been to export a VM and then wipe the host

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                        Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                        @notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                        @Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.

                        It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.

                        Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                          @Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                          @notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                          @Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.

                          It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.

                          Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.

                          That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            A "service" on Linux is called a dæmon.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              What command are you using to shut down Dgraph? And is this part of a cluster?

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Jimmy9008
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                                @Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                @notverypunny

                                I dont think so...

                                The host is HyperV server. Doesn't Veeam Zip require a license for use, or to be able to set a backup schedule...

                                You can just create a custom powershell script and use Windows task manager to run it on a schedule.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  This is the command for a Dgraph backup...

                                  curl localhost:8080/admin/backup
                                  
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                                    Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                    @Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                    @notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                    @Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.

                                    It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.

                                    Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.

                                    That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.

                                    Thats what I thought. Any free tools I can look in to?

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                                      Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                      This is the command for a Dgraph backup...

                                      curl localhost:8080/admin/backup
                                      

                                      I found that yesterday, we are thinking about using this whilst also looking for other options. Ideally we would use this for a backup at the application level, but also something like Veeam Linux Free to allow us to quickly restore the VM should we need to, rather than use the backup file from DGraph.

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                                        Jimmy9008 @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                        What command are you using to shut down Dgraph? And is this part of a cluster?

                                        Not part of a cluster. Our development team are using this from the VM its self:

                                        curl localhost:8080/admin/shutdown

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                          @Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                          @Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                          @notverypunny said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                          @Jimmy9008 I don't know the specifics for HyperV, I know that the free Veeam product requires that a VMWare host be licensed to expose the backup API, I didn't think that the same principle applied for HyperV but could be mistaken.

                                          It does not as there is no such thing as a Hyper-V license.

                                          Doesn't Veeam Zip its self require a license to be able to use the scheduling feature? Its useless to me without that.

                                          That would not be Veeam Zip if you do that. Veeam Zip is the free non-scheduled tool.

                                          Thats what I thought. Any free tools I can look in to?

                                          Not that I know of. Nor will it make a difference. Its a false path. VM layer backups dont solve open file issues.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Jimmy9008
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                                            @Jimmy9008 said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Free Veeam for Linux/Restore:

                                            This is the command for a Dgraph backup...

                                            curl localhost:8080/admin/backup
                                            

                                            I found that yesterday, we are thinking about using this whilst also looking for other options. Ideally we would use this for a backup at the application level, but also something like Veeam Linux Free to allow us to quickly restore the VM should we need to, rather than use the backup file from DGraph.

                                            Thats not a good path. Backup you data and be able to restore quickly through normal processes. You can still recover quickly uaing the proper tools. You cant work around them.

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