Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?
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I have been presented with the following requirements
Considering this - Do you think that this requires a Windows Server license? i.e. violates the use of a desktop OS?
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Based on the fact that this system would be hosting a database, I would lean towards needing a Server license.
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Are you going to get Medisoft?
https://microwize.com/medisoft/ -
Probably do not need a server license. Most of these type of apps can be run in Client/Server mode on a desktop so I think you would be fine. Bigger question is how many people are going to use the app? Just one? then a desktop or a VDI would be fine. If there is more than 5 accessing then I would move to a 3 tier with a VM using Windows Server.
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@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
Probably do not need a server license. Most of these type of apps can be run in Client/Server mode on a desktop so I think you would be fine. Bigger question is how many people are going to use the app? Just one? then a desktop or a VDI would be fine. If there is more than 5 accessing then I would move to a 3 tier with a VM using Windows Server.
The number of users is actually irrelevant. What matters is the number of concurrent connections and the type of content being hosted.
This would fall outside of what MS has allowed in the Desktop licensing.
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@DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.
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To be on Microsoft Guidelines just do a Server License instead of a Desktop.
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/8/d/98d6a56c-4d79-40f4-8462-da3ecba2dc2c/licensing_windows_desktop_os_for_virtual_machines.pdf -
@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.
This is my opinion as well.
What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR
Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?
If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.
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@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.
This is my opinion as well.
What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR
Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?
If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.
Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing
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@JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.
This is my opinion as well.
What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR
Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?
If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.
Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing
no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.
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@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.
This is my opinion as well.
What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR
Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?
If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.
Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing
no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.
I’m so happy I did not know that
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@JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.
This is my opinion as well.
What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR
Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?
If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.
Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing
no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.
I’m so happy I did not know that
I only learned about here - I think Scott posted it.
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@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@JaredBusch said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@Dashrender said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@DustinB3403 You are correct - It what I meant when I said users. And yes, it would fall outside MS guidelines. On the other hand, MS is so FUBAR on it's licensing schema that it's really hard to say what is kosher and what is not when nitpicking these kind of details.
This is my opinion as well.
What I don't know well enough yet is - is this a local DB that's pulling data from a cloud source for a local DB, and only used on this computer? OR
Is the local DB then shared out to other machines that have a client on them?
If it's the second, then I agree with Dustin - it would be sharing the access to the DB, therefore needs Server license - just like Quickbook, even though almost no small business ever actually does that.
Last time I looked, QuickBooks is just a file sharing
no, they changed it some time ago - there is a server process that runs on the host.
When using the Quickbooks Database Manager, do not create the firewall rules yourself, only let the application create it for you. Otherwise it would be problematic. You don't need the Database manager if you use files in single user mode.
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@DustinB3403 said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
@pchiodo said in Server license or VDI (or possibly desktop with Desktop Windows OS)?:
Probably do not need a server license. Most of these type of apps can be run in Client/Server mode on a desktop so I think you would be fine. Bigger question is how many people are going to use the app? Just one? then a desktop or a VDI would be fine. If there is more than 5 accessing then I would move to a 3 tier with a VM using Windows Server.
The number of users is actually irrelevant. What matters is the number of concurrent connections and the type of content being hosted.
This would fall outside of what MS has allowed in the Desktop licensing.
Depends on the mode... number via SMB, doesn't matter. Number by RDP matters.
