Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters
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So in a recent post @travisdh1 said he had a security camera die and that led me to think about just replacing it with a WyzeCam and installing the custom firmware on the camera to get an RTSP feed off of it.
Feed it all into ZoneMinder and be done with it.
PoE Splitter
ZoneMinder
Wyzecam
Wyzecam FirmwareI know @JaredBusch is setting up his house with this so I figured it would be a decent place to setup and discuss.
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While it would probably work, being that this is a business, I'm recommending Ubiquiti cameras. Yeah it's more money, but not having to jack with the firmware is a big plus.
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@travisdh1 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
While it would probably work, being that this is a business, I'm recommending Ubiquiti cameras. Yeah it's more money, but not having to jack with the firmware is a big plus.
Home Security (I wouldn't advocate for doing this for business).
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@DustinB3403 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@travisdh1 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
While it would probably work, being that this is a business, I'm recommending Ubiquiti cameras. Yeah it's more money, but not having to jack with the firmware is a big plus.
Home Security (I wouldn't advocate for doing this for business).
Yep. I'm going to do this for my house, just need to get my new server setup and in a nice colo somewhere.
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This would be an extremely cheap method of getting a security system built on a super-tight budget where you can't spend a ton of money on the more high-end cameras.
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This is on my list.... +1 to getting a new server in a colo.
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As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'm currently running ZoneMinder (for my 1 camera) locally... if I have external internet problems, my camera isn't recording...
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@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'm currently running ZoneMinder (for my 1 camera) locally... if I have external internet problems, my camera isn't recording...
To save the power, noise and cooling of having a server in your house.
For me I don't really see the benefit either since you can install ZoneMinder onto a Raspberry Pi.
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@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'll have memory cards in the cameras themselves for local recording. The point of having something offsite as well is so if someone does break in, they can't carry out the evidence. @JaredBusch found that Wyze has a 5 minute time-out between motion activated recordings to their cloud service, so something else is warranted if I want to grab everything instead of just most things.
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@travisdh1 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'll have memory cards in the cameras themselves for local recording. The point of having something offsite as well is so if someone does break in, they can't carry out the evidence. @JaredBusch found that Wyze has a 5 minute time-out between motion activated recordings to their cloud service, so something else is warranted if I want to grab everything instead of just most things.
I didn't think you had the local recording option with the custom firmware.
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@travisdh1 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'll have memory cards in the cameras themselves for local recording. The point of having something offsite as well is so if someone does break in, they can't carry out the evidence. @JaredBusch found that Wyze has a 5 minute time-out between motion activated recordings to their cloud service, so something else is warranted if I want to grab everything instead of just most things.
So you'll be able to retain video until your internet comes back (if it's not a long time)... Interesting.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@travisdh1 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'll have memory cards in the cameras themselves for local recording. The point of having something offsite as well is so if someone does break in, they can't carry out the evidence. @JaredBusch found that Wyze has a 5 minute time-out between motion activated recordings to their cloud service, so something else is warranted if I want to grab everything instead of just most things.
I didn't think you had the local recording option with the custom firmware.
Well, bother. I need to go take a look at those docs.
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And since you aren't using the Wyzecam firmware or cloud services you shouldn't experience that 5 minute time-out between an event and the recording taking place.
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@DustinB3403 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'm currently running ZoneMinder (for my 1 camera) locally... if I have external internet problems, my camera isn't recording...
To save the power, noise and cooling of having a server in your house.
For me I don't really see the benefit either since you can install ZoneMinder onto a Raspberry Pi.
I get the power, noise, and cooling... I tend to forget about the Noise aspect since I keep my desktops in another room.
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@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@DustinB3403 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
@dafyre said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
As a matter of curiosity... Why would you put the servers for your cameras in a Colo?
I'm currently running ZoneMinder (for my 1 camera) locally... if I have external internet problems, my camera isn't recording...
To save the power, noise and cooling of having a server in your house.
For me I don't really see the benefit either since you can install ZoneMinder onto a Raspberry Pi.
I get the power, noise, and cooling... I tend to forget about the Noise aspect since I keep my desktops in another room.
Same here, I mean I can hear the server fans from my lab. But it's so trivially to ignore that it doesn't bother even my daughter.
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What's the benefits from using the Custom Firmware?
Been thinking about getting some CCTV stuff, like the idea of using PoE splitter to power them as it will be easier to cable some points instead of finding power points.
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@hobbit666 said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
What's the benefits from using the Custom Firmware?
Been thinking about getting some CCTV stuff, like the idea of using PoE splitter to power them as it will be easier to cable some points instead of finding power points.
The custom firmware (with the Wyzecam's) provides you a RTSP to pull the feed into ZoneMinder.
Otherwise there is nothing on the camera that would do this for you and you couldn't use the camera.
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So essentially it's a $20 camera turned into something that is likely as good if not better than a large portion of the camera market that charges much more for the same functionality.
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There are so many real surveillance cameras for little money that are made for the purpose already. For instance this outdoor model for less than $30:
To get real coverage you need different lenses in different applications and indoor and outdoor options as well. Installing cameras, wiring it all up and installing software and having storage, backups etc and keeping everything running is too much work to save a few bucks.
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@Pete-S said in Home Security Systems using WyzeCam and PoE Splitters:
There are so many real surveillance cameras for little money that are made for the purpose already. For instance this outdoor model for less than $30:
To get real coverage you need different lenses in different applications and indoor and outdoor options as well. Installing cameras, wiring it all up and installing software and having storage, backups etc and keeping everything running is too much work to save a few bucks.
The hikvision cameras apparently are utter crap and worth avoiding.
