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      Markferron
      last edited by scottalanmiller

      I read a few posts comparing Crashplan to Backblaze dated back in 2016 and it seemed that most people were leaning towards Crashplan due to its reliability. Has that opinion changed at all two years later? We currently have a very old installation of Crashplan on campus and I am looking towards upgrading. Personally I'm leaning towards Backblaze for our of our laptops that go off campus, but keeping Crashplan (the most updated version) on our file servers. The main reason is that our bandwidth is not that great and keeping a local backup would be much faster if we needed it. I don't know if this is a waste of money and time with me splitting up different backup services. What do you guys think?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by DustinB3403

        To me it sounds like you have a partially functional backup solution, neither of which is fulfilling the needs as a whole.

        Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by DustinB3403

          A more streamlined approach might be to use a solution on all of your endpoints to backup to a on-premise storage device, which then backs up to BackBlaze B2.

          Without really going into specifics UrBackup falls into this type of category if you need to protect endpoints, for one reason or another to have them go to a local storage medium.

          Veeam EndPoint Backup would as well.

          From that storage medium (or tertiary device) would you then backup to BackBlaze Storage for your off-site protection.

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            Markferron @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

            Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

            I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite @Markferron
              last edited by

              @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

              @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

              Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

              I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

              That's how I do it but we are using Nextcloud.

              All users root folders under their user profile is linked to the actual folders in C:\Users\john.doe\Nextcloud{Desktop, Documents, etc...}. And the data is synced back to the Nextcloud server and that server is backed up.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                Tags added.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @black3dynamite
                  last edited by

                  @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                  @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                  @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                  Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

                  I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

                  That's how I do it but we are using Nextcloud.

                  All users root folders under their user profile is linked to the actual folders in C:\Users\john.doe\Nextcloud{Desktop, Documents, etc...}. And the data is synced back to the Nextcloud server and that server is backed up.

                  Same here.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @JaredBusch said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                    @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                    @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                    @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                    Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

                    I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

                    That's how I do it but we are using Nextcloud.

                    All users root folders under their user profile is linked to the actual folders in C:\Users\john.doe\Nextcloud{Desktop, Documents, etc...}. And the data is synced back to the Nextcloud server and that server is backed up.

                    Same here.

                    And here.

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                    • dafyreD
                      dafyre
                      last edited by

                      As long as the NextCloud server is available off-site, even remote laptops should work as well.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre
                        last edited by

                        NextCloud can also be integrated with Active Directory too (I've not done this).

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @Markferron
                          last edited by JaredBusch

                          @Markferron back to the topic title, I prefer BackBlaze today. Simply because CrashPlan shit on me. Their Business service did not change, but telling the residential service to jsut piss off because they made bad business decisions?

                          Meh, they are still making bad choices.

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                            Markferron @dafyre
                            last edited by

                            @dafyre said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                            As long as the NextCloud server is available off-site, even remote laptops should work as well.

                            Hmm...maybe that'll be the excuse I need to finally start moving things to a colo.

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                              Markferron @JaredBusch
                              last edited by

                              @JaredBusch said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                              @Markferron back to the topic title, I prefer BackBlaze today. Simply because CrashPlan shit on me. Their Business service did not change, but telling the residential service to jsut piss off because they made bad business decisions?

                              Meh, they are still making bad choices.

                              Funny you mention that. Read a lot of pissed off people on that topic...

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                                JaredBusch @Markferron
                                last edited by

                                @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                @JaredBusch said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                @Markferron back to the topic title, I prefer BackBlaze today. Simply because CrashPlan shit on me. Their Business service did not change, but telling the residential service to jsut piss off because they made bad business decisions?

                                Meh, they are still making bad choices.

                                Funny you mention that. Read a lot of pissed off people on that topic...

                                There were an ass ton of people abusing it I am sure. But they had all the control and could have put policy into place.

                                Also, deleted files never seemed to actually be deleted like retention said.

                                But shitcanning the service was their mistake. I used it personally. I dind't abuse it. I had 1.5 TB of data in it. But it was a stable 1.5 TB never increasing drastically. Just slow steady growth from pictures, etc.

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                                  Markferron @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                  To me it sounds like you have a partially functional backup solution, neither of which is fulfilling the needs as a whole.

                                  You're defnintely right about that. We're working off of old hardware and software, and both will take awhile to get up to date. For that reason I think I'll have to go with Backblaze just for now while I work on a permanent solution. Thanks for the Nextcloud ideas, sounds like a a real money saver.

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                                    dafyre @black3dynamite
                                    last edited by

                                    @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                    @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                    Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

                                    I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

                                    That's how I do it but we are using Nextcloud.

                                    All users root folders under their user profile is linked to the actual folders in C:\Users\john.doe\Nextcloud{Desktop, Documents, etc...}. And the data is synced back to the Nextcloud server and that server is backed up.

                                    How do you go about doing that? Editing the location of Desktop, Documents, etc... ?

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                                    • black3dynamiteB
                                      black3dynamite @dafyre
                                      last edited by

                                      @dafyre said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                      @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                      @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                      Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

                                      I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

                                      That's how I do it but we are using Nextcloud.

                                      All users root folders under their user profile is linked to the actual folders in C:\Users\john.doe\Nextcloud{Desktop, Documents, etc...}. And the data is synced back to the Nextcloud server and that server is backed up.

                                      How do you go about doing that? Editing the location of Desktop, Documents, etc... ?

                                      Use Junction Points. Its like using symbolic links in Linux.

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @black3dynamite
                                        last edited by

                                        @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                        @dafyre said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                        @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                        @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                        @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                        Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

                                        I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

                                        That's how I do it but we are using Nextcloud.

                                        All users root folders under their user profile is linked to the actual folders in C:\Users\john.doe\Nextcloud{Desktop, Documents, etc...}. And the data is synced back to the Nextcloud server and that server is backed up.

                                        How do you go about doing that? Editing the location of Desktop, Documents, etc... ?

                                        Use Junction Points. Its like using symbolic links in Linux.

                                        Oh... Duh, lol. Thanks.

                                        I'm just trying to figure out how that would work if you have to do more than a few client machines at a time.

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                                          jim9500
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                                          Before Crashplan turned their service off - they updated with a kill switch that made it to where you couldn't access data that had been backed up unless you had a computer that had been offline & not updated versions (& even then it was hackish - had to find a guy who made a "Plan B" tool to grab your decryption key etc). IMO insanely shady - I wouldn't touch them again.

                                          We moved to Backblaze + Duplicati & moved the backup offsite instead of in house. Setup is much more of a pain but speeds are fast & pricing is super reasonable.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @dafyre
                                            last edited by

                                            @dafyre said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                            @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                            @dafyre said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                            @black3dynamite said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                            @Markferron said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                            @DustinB3403 said in Crashplan vs Backblaze in 2018:

                                            Can I ask why you are protecting user devices though? Generally these have very little on them and through simple policy can everything be saved on your servers or cloud and thus don't need backup.

                                            I would really like to do this. We have onedrive available for all of our users and I was thinking of coming up with some sort of system that just uses their onedrive as the primary source of their homefolder.

                                            That's how I do it but we are using Nextcloud.

                                            All users root folders under their user profile is linked to the actual folders in C:\Users\john.doe\Nextcloud{Desktop, Documents, etc...}. And the data is synced back to the Nextcloud server and that server is backed up.

                                            How do you go about doing that? Editing the location of Desktop, Documents, etc... ?

                                            Use Junction Points. Its like using symbolic links in Linux.

                                            Oh... Duh, lol. Thanks.

                                            I'm just trying to figure out how that would work if you have to do more than a few client machines at a time.

                                            Something like this. It is not ready for prime time, but was my starting point last week when setting up a new desktop.

                                            $User = Read-Host "Enter UserName"
                                            Remove-Item -Path "C:\Users\$User\Desktop"
                                            New-Item -ItemType Junction -Path "C:\Users\$User" -Name "Desktop" -Target "C:\Users\$User\Nextcloud\Desktop" -Force
                                            Remove-Item -Path "C:\Users\$User\Documents"
                                            New-Item -ItemType Junction -Path "C:\Users\$User" -Name "Documents" -Target "C:\Users\$User\Nextcloud\Documents" -Force
                                            Remove-Item -Path "C:\Users\$User\Downloads"
                                            New-Item -ItemType Junction -Path "C:\Users\$User" -Name "Downloads" -Target "C:\Users\$User\Nextcloud\Downloads" -Force
                                            Remove-Item -Path "C:\Users\$User\Favorites"
                                            New-Item -ItemType Junction -Path "C:\Users\$User" -Name "Favorites" -Target "C:\Users\$User\Nextcloud\Favorites" -Force
                                            Remove-Item -Path "C:\Users\$User\Music"
                                            New-Item -ItemType Junction -Path "C:\Users\$User" -Name "Music" -Target "C:\Users\$User\Nextcloud\Music" -Force
                                            Remove-Item -Path "C:\Users\$User\Pictures"
                                            New-Item -ItemType Junction -Path "C:\Users\$User" -Name "Pictures" -Target "C:\Users\$User\Nextcloud\Pictures" -Force
                                            Remove-Item -Path "C:\Users\$User\Videos"
                                            New-Item -ItemType Junction -Path "C:\Users\$User" -Name "Videos" -Target "C:\Users\$User\Nextcloud\Videos" -Force
                                            
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