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    Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

      @dustinb3403 said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

      @dariena It's cheaper to implement, not cheaper to host forever if you are weighing the "buying my own hardware". But you also have to include the cost of replacing the hardware, performing upgrades over the usable life, electric, HVAC, outages etc

      So while you might spend $100,000 over whatever length of time, it is often cheaper for the same usable span compared to running your own equipment.

      Isn't the most common preference chart Hosted("Cloud") -> Colo -> On Premise. Once it's cheaper to move from cloud to owning your own server, it's also almost always cheaper to have it placed in a Colo than in your own building.

      I wouldn't say preference. Preferences are random if you are talking emotions. If you are talking business, the preference is only what is right for your scenario.

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        DarienA
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        I also often feel these discussions don't always take into fact how DR will work, or specifically where will you fall in your hosted providers' priority during their outage. DR of course isn't a conversation everyone will think about based on size of course(though they should).

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          DustinB3403 @DarienA
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          @dariena regardless of how services are provided; DR needs to be a part of the conversation.

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            DarienA
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            Its often an added cost that isn't factored into these cloud is cheaper sales talks...

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              NerdyDad @Oksana
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              @oksana Sounds like somebody has been drinking the "LAN-less IT" juice

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                @nerdydad said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                @oksana Sounds like somebody has been drinking the "LAN-less IT" juice

                Cloud encourages LANless, but LANless is equally doable with and without cloud. And many clouds, especially Azure, push LAN-based even when cloud.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @DarienA
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                  @dariena said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                  Its often an added cost that isn't factored into these cloud is cheaper sales talks...

                  Or local.. Don't try and ignore your favored side.

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                    DarienA @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                    @dariena said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                    Its often an added cost that isn't factored into these cloud is cheaper sales talks...

                    Or local.. Don't try and ignore your favored side.

                    I'd absolutely dispute the statement that folks don't think about backup when data is stored onprem.

                    In addition... my favored side? I'd say I don't prefer either, simply that each is looked at in a more encompassing view in terms of what's involved in costs.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @DarienA
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                      @dariena said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                      I'd absolutely dispute the statement that folks don't think about backup when data is stored onprem.

                      hahahahahahahah

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @DarienA
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                        @dariena said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                        @jaredbusch said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                        @dariena said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                        Its often an added cost that isn't factored into these cloud is cheaper sales talks...

                        Or local.. Don't try and ignore your favored side.

                        I'd absolutely dispute the statement that folks don't think about backup when data is stored onprem.

                        I think we all have very opposite experiences. Including threads from the last two days. This is something so common, while always shocking, it's a shock we get continuously.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                          @dariena said in Save yourself the money & the hassle - build an all-cloud IT infrastructure!:

                          Its often an added cost that isn't factored into these cloud is cheaper sales talks...

                          Or local.. Don't try and ignore your favored side.

                          Right, there are loads of factors not factored in anywhere. I think cloud tends to get attention because it's the popular new thing and people just assume that there must be a good reason for it, and they leap to "it must be cheaper" as that is the thing that they understand.

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                            DarienA @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch Some people. Come on now.

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                              DarienA @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller Right and they leap at that without a full picture, that's all I was admittedly trying to say.

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