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    • IRJI
      IRJ @travisdh1
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      @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

      Disable selinux (sad admin)

      sed -i 's/SELINUX=enforcing/SELINUX=disabled/' /etc/selinux/config
      setenforce 0
      

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      • IRJI
        IRJ
        last edited by

        I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IRJ
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          @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

          I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

          Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

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          • IRJI
            IRJ @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

            @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

            I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

            Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

            I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @IRJ
              last edited by

              @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

              I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

              Yeah, if you already have another remote gateway. Just about anything else looks good at the moment.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                Why does it have to be without technical expertise?

                For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. How do they do that with NX? With Guac, it is easy.

                Or anytime someone needs to work from a place where they can't install something.

                How do you handle gateway services for NX, do you have a mechanism or just use different ports?

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by stacksofplates

                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                  @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                  @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                  I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                  Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                  I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                  For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                  SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                    last edited by

                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                    @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                    @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                    I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                    Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                    I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                    For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                    SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                    RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                    I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                      @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                      @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                      @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                      I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                      Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                      I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                      For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                      SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                      RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                      I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                      I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                      This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                        last edited by

                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                        @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                        @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                        I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                        Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                        I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                        For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                        SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                        RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                        I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                        I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                        This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

                        CM?

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                          Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                          I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                          For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                          SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                          RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                          I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                          I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                          This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

                          CM?

                          Configuration management.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @travisdh1
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                            Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.

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                            This is what I was talking about. I get the same thing. Glad I'm not the only one.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                              Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                              I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                              For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                              SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                              RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                              I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                              I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                              This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

                              CM?

                              Configuration management.

                              Okay, wasn't sure. Yes, pushing out NX configs shouldn't be too bad, in theory.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                                SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                                RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                                I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                                I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                                This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

                                CM?

                                Configuration management.

                                Okay, wasn't sure. Yes, pushing out NX configs shouldn't be too bad, in theory.

                                NoMachine finds all of the systems in a network. For example, if you're on ZT it will list all available clients on that network. I was saying if you just wanted a list for people to SSH/RDP to, you already have it.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                  Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                  I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                  For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                                  SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                                  RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                                  I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                                  I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                                  This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

                                  CM?

                                  Configuration management.

                                  Okay, wasn't sure. Yes, pushing out NX configs shouldn't be too bad, in theory.

                                  NoMachine finds all of the systems in a network. For example, if you're on ZT it will list all available clients on that network. I was saying if you just wanted a list for people to SSH/RDP to, you already have it.

                                  What we want, ideally, is not to use something like ZT (although it's an option that we will kick around), and not to make a list for everyone. But to have a portal (or something like a portal) that lists all of the machines available specifically to the person in question. We have specific pools and assigned boxes. For example, Maggie has a dedicated machine just for her, I don't want to see it in my list. And she doesn't want to see mine. But we both want to see remote machines dedicated for something we share.

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