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    • travisdh1T
      travisdh1 @wirestyle22
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      @wirestyle22 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

      @travisdh1 From what I've heard, Guacamole on Fedora is pretty unstable. How has this been running for you?

      The base install here using the user-mappings.xml for everything has been working great. I only have it pointing to two different things on the back end. It was still up and running when I checked it just now tho.

      The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.

      dnf-automatic is running. I'll try rebooting it tonight and see if it comes back up correctly.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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        @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

        The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.

        That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.

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        • travisdh1T
          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

          @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

          The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.

          That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.

          I'd be very surprised if it acted any differently on any platform. One of the big reasons I decided to do a guide on it is how it just breaks when using many of the supposed options. Not that I really expect great documentation for anything before v1 is out, but at least take down known broken stuff!

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite @travisdh1
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            @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

            @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

            The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.

            That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.

            I'd be very surprised if it acted any differently on any platform. One of the big reasons I decided to do a guide on it is how it just breaks when using many of the supposed options. Not that I really expect great documentation for anything before v1 is out, but at least take down known broken stuff!

            Besides incomplete or bad documentation, what is specifically unstable about it on Fedora or other distros?

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            • travisdh1T
              travisdh1 @black3dynamite
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              @black3dynamite said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

              @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

              @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

              @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

              The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.

              That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.

              I'd be very surprised if it acted any differently on any platform. One of the big reasons I decided to do a guide on it is how it just breaks when using many of the supposed options. Not that I really expect great documentation for anything before v1 is out, but at least take down known broken stuff!

              Besides incomplete or bad documentation, what is specifically unstable about it on Fedora or other distros?

              For me so far, nothing.

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1
                last edited by

                Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite @travisdh1
                  last edited by

                  @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                  Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.

                  0_1536887568515_447e26e3-d88c-4dc4-8aba-33a280c6426c-image.png

                  With SELinux set to permissive or disabled?

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                  • travisdh1T
                    travisdh1 @black3dynamite
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                    @black3dynamite said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                    Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.

                    0_1536887568515_447e26e3-d88c-4dc4-8aba-33a280c6426c-image.png

                    With SELinux set to permissive or disabled?

                    Disabled 😞

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                      Disable selinux (sad admin)

                      sed -i 's/SELINUX=enforcing/SELINUX=disabled/' /etc/selinux/config
                      setenforce 0
                      

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
                        last edited by

                        I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                          @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                          I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                          Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                            @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                            I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                            Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                            I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                              I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                              Yeah, if you already have another remote gateway. Just about anything else looks good at the moment.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                                @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                Why does it have to be without technical expertise?

                                For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. How do they do that with NX? With Guac, it is easy.

                                Or anytime someone needs to work from a place where they can't install something.

                                How do you handle gateway services for NX, do you have a mechanism or just use different ports?

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                  I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                  Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                  I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                  For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                                  SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                    @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                    @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                    @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                    I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                    Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                    I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                    For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                                    SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                                    RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                                    I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

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                                    • stacksofplatesS
                                      stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                      @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                      @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                      @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                      I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                      Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                      I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                      For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                                      SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                                      RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                                      I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                                      I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                                      This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                        @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                        @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                        I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                        Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                        I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                        For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                                        SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                                        RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                                        I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                                        I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                                        This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

                                        CM?

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                                        • stacksofplatesS
                                          stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          @irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                          I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.

                                          Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.

                                          I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?

                                          For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \

                                          SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.

                                          RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?

                                          I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.

                                          I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.

                                          This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.

                                          CM?

                                          Configuration management.

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                                          • wirestyle22W
                                            wirestyle22 @travisdh1
                                            last edited by wirestyle22

                                            @travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:

                                            Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.

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                                            This is what I was talking about. I get the same thing. Glad I'm not the only one.

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