Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals
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@nerdydad said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
Professor Messer + Their own lab to learn in
This is literally what we started doing for our new L0s just last week.
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That's great. Never heard of Messer, but the videos look pretty good. Any specific recommendations on a lab setup for them?
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@fuznutz04 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
That's great. Never heard of Messer, but the videos look pretty good. Any specific recommendations on a lab setup for them?
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@fuznutz04 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
That's great. Never heard of Messer, but the videos look pretty good. Any specific recommendations on a lab setup for them?
Get them an EdgeRouter lite and a single unifi AP, have them configure to start with.
@Dashrender did that with me when I was first starting to learn it. -
@wrcombs said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@fuznutz04 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
That's great. Never heard of Messer, but the videos look pretty good. Any specific recommendations on a lab setup for them?
Get them an EdgeRouter lite and a single unifi AP, have them configure to start with.
@Dashrender did that with me when I was first starting to learn it.If they have a test environment available, also have them install and configure VyOS. Having to work from a command line teaches me much better than using a guide at least.
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@travisdh1 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@wrcombs said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@fuznutz04 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
That's great. Never heard of Messer, but the videos look pretty good. Any specific recommendations on a lab setup for them?
Get them an EdgeRouter lite and a single unifi AP, have them configure to start with.
@Dashrender did that with me when I was first starting to learn it.If they have a test environment available, also have them install and configure VyOS. Having to work from a command line teaches me much better than using a guide at least.
These are L0, manual firewall config skills are not even close to being in their range.
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@scottalanmiller said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@travisdh1 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@wrcombs said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@fuznutz04 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
That's great. Never heard of Messer, but the videos look pretty good. Any specific recommendations on a lab setup for them?
Get them an EdgeRouter lite and a single unifi AP, have them configure to start with.
@Dashrender did that with me when I was first starting to learn it.If they have a test environment available, also have them install and configure VyOS. Having to work from a command line teaches me much better than using a guide at least.
These are L0, manual firewall config skills are not even close to being in their range.
Agreed. Need something VERY basic. I'll start with the Messer videos and setup some sort of basic lab. Perhaps just a switch, and a cheap router with a GUI, so they can get the basic concepts and see them in action.
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@fuznutz04 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@scottalanmiller said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@travisdh1 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@wrcombs said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@fuznutz04 said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
That's great. Never heard of Messer, but the videos look pretty good. Any specific recommendations on a lab setup for them?
Get them an EdgeRouter lite and a single unifi AP, have them configure to start with.
@Dashrender did that with me when I was first starting to learn it.If they have a test environment available, also have them install and configure VyOS. Having to work from a command line teaches me much better than using a guide at least.
These are L0, manual firewall config skills are not even close to being in their range.
Agreed. Need something VERY basic. I'll start with the Messer videos and setup some sort of basic lab. Perhaps just a switch, and a cheap router with a GUI, so they can get the basic concepts and see them in action.
Something I have seen trip people up as they transition out of the basics is a poor understanding of binary and subnetting. As long as we have IPv4 it is a critical skill.
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@kelly i believe the net+ still requires that. But havent looked.
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@scottalanmiller said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@kelly i believe the net+ still requires that. But havent looked.
I'm guessing it does too. I was just calling it out specifically since it is an area that many skip because binary looks hard and useless.
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@kelly said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@scottalanmiller said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@kelly i believe the net+ still requires that. But havent looked.
I'm guessing it does too. I was just calling it out specifically since it is an area that many skip because binary looks hard and useless.
I was like that with the ISO OSI model. Seemed so stupid. And in reality the most useful thing that I ever learned.
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I don't think I ever had management access to a router until like 2013. I learned networking fundamentals before that, I was a bench tech at the time and was moving soon and thought it would help me get a job. I guess the basics all kind of make sense when you've dealt with things on the client side.
I don't remember my first time configuring a router at all, so it probably wasn't significant at that point, and it probably wasn't long before I had to doing working with juniper and cisco equipment at bit.
I learned by reading a 'Networking for Dummies' book and Professor Messer Network+ videos. I am a big fan of Pluralsight now though. But I just use it as an first step to get a introduction, and a bit of theory for some familiarity. Then I dive into a hands on project.
I do have to re-learning subnetting every time though. It think I came up in both of my MCSAs.
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@flaxking we can provide lab access
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@nexzcore said in Level 1 Basic Training -Network fundamentals:
@flaxking we can provide lab access
And what do you provide that GNS3 couldn't?
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paloalto fw
