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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Obsolesce
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      @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      think if there is a case for negligence on the part of the employer it would be appropriate, but it sounds like (from the blog post) that the court is punishing the company for the stupidity of one employee.

      Who else would it be? "A company" is made of people. When a mistake happens, it's always the fault of a person or persons.

      Where do you draw the line of accountability? If PII is released to the general public by "a company", yes they should be liable no matter how many employees took part in it.

      Ignorance is not an excuse... and rarely is.

      The court decision is not punishing the ignorant person. They're punishing the entire company. This seems to me to be a ridiculous level of collective responsibility. Again, if the company was negligent in their responsibility to train and safeguard the information then I can see there being a case, but if the employee did something against training and policy then you end up in a very difficult place for employers.

      That's the responsibility employers take when they hire people. The employees make up the company, so the company is responsible for the employees actions regarding "company data". That it was an individuals action makes no difference that company data was misused (PII).

      That is a bunch of bullshit. Let us assume that the company had policy and procedure in place as specified in the discussion point by @Kelly.

      How should the company be held liable for a rogue employee? Malicious or not.

      Use logic and give me facts.

      The company did everything they were supposed to do.

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      • KellyK
        Kelly @Obsolesce
        last edited by

        @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        think if there is a case for negligence on the part of the employer it would be appropriate, but it sounds like (from the blog post) that the court is punishing the company for the stupidity of one employee.

        Who else would it be? "A company" is made of people. When a mistake happens, it's always the fault of a person or persons.

        Where do you draw the line of accountability? If PII is released to the general public by "a company", yes they should be liable no matter how many employees took part in it.

        Ignorance is not an excuse... and rarely is.

        The court decision is not punishing the ignorant person. They're punishing the entire company. This seems to me to be a ridiculous level of collective responsibility. Again, if the company was negligent in their responsibility to train and safeguard the information then I can see there being a case, but if the employee did something against training and policy then you end up in a very difficult place for employers.

        That's the responsibility employers take when they hire people. The employees make up the company, so the company is responsible for the employees actions regarding "company data". That it was an individuals action makes no difference that company data was misused (PII).

        I'm not stating that there shouldn't be consequences and that the company needs to actually do something about what happened, but how is a company to avoid being shut down by the failure of an employee to do their job (again, I'm making an assumption that there were policies and training that were violated)? To make it more personal, think about the impact for you if the accountant at your company did this, a group of employees sued the company for punitive damages, and the company cut jobs and you lost yours. How can a company avoid this? Hiring better isn't the answer since intelligent, aware people get caught by this when they're stressed or in a hurry.

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
          last edited by Obsolesce

          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

          think if there is a case for negligence on the part of the employer it would be appropriate, but it sounds like (from the blog post) that the court is punishing the company for the stupidity of one employee.

          Who else would it be? "A company" is made of people. When a mistake happens, it's always the fault of a person or persons.

          Where do you draw the line of accountability? If PII is released to the general public by "a company", yes they should be liable no matter how many employees took part in it.

          Ignorance is not an excuse... and rarely is.

          The court decision is not punishing the ignorant person. They're punishing the entire company. This seems to me to be a ridiculous level of collective responsibility. Again, if the company was negligent in their responsibility to train and safeguard the information then I can see there being a case, but if the employee did something against training and policy then you end up in a very difficult place for employers.

          That's the responsibility employers take when they hire people. The employees make up the company, so the company is responsible for the employees actions regarding "company data". That it was an individuals action makes no difference that company data was misused (PII).

          That is a bunch of bullshit. Let us assume that the company had policy and procedure in place as specified in the discussion point by @Kelly.

          How should the company be held liable for a rogue employee? Malicious or not.

          Use logic and give me facts.

          The company did everything they were supposed to do.

          It is a FACT, that employees can not be sued due to negligence.

          Another fact, employees can be sued, if they act fraudulently or commit acts of intentional wrongdoing (malicious intent) beyond the scope of their authority... but this was not the case.

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          • wrx7mW
            wrx7m
            last edited by wrx7m

            https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities---threats/newly-revealed-exactis-data-leak-bigger-than-equifaxs/d/d-id/1332175?_mc=rss_x_drr_edt_aud_dr_x_x-rss-simple

            Exactis - Another gigantic leak of data.

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            • KellyK
              Kelly
              last edited by

              @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              https://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabilities---threats/newly-revealed-exactis-data-leak-bigger-than-equifaxs/d/d-id/1332175?_mc=rss_x_drr_edt_aud_dr_x_x-rss-simple

              Exactis - Another gigantic leak of data.

              And this is why the Red Shell "analytics" software is not a good idea even if they will only use it for benign purposes.

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite
                last edited by black3dynamite

                https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/xen-orchestra-5-21/

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                • KellyK
                  Kelly
                  last edited by

                  Agentless Linux vulnerability scanner looks interesting: https://n0where.net/linux-vulnerability-scanner-vuls.

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly
                    last edited by

                    Gentoo code on Github has "been totally pwned": https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/06/29/linux-distro-hacked-on-github-all-code-considered-compromised/.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @Kelly
                      last edited by

                      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                      Gentoo code on Github has "been totally pwned": https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/06/29/linux-distro-hacked-on-github-all-code-considered-compromised/.

                      Someone wasn't using 2FA...

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                      • PenguinWranglerP
                        PenguinWrangler @Kelly
                        last edited by

                        @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                        Gentoo code on Github has "been totally pwned": https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/06/29/linux-distro-hacked-on-github-all-code-considered-compromised/.

                        Wow, oh wow. I know there are die-hard Gentoo people out there. I was never one of them.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite
                          last edited by

                          Linux Mint 19 "Tara" Released

                          Cinnamon
                          https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3597

                          Mate
                          https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3598

                          Xfce
                          https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3599

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                          • momurdaM
                            momurda @black3dynamite
                            last edited by

                            @black3dynamite Downloaded from UW in less than 1 min. Installing now as a vm

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @Kelly
                              last edited by

                              @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              Agentless Linux vulnerability scanner looks interesting: https://n0where.net/linux-vulnerability-scanner-vuls.

                              I'm going to have to look at this. Agentless would be much more convenient than Wazuh.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
                                last edited by

                                PowerPoint for Mac version 16.14.1 has weird issues with objects, where items such as a dotted line will get blown up and printed massively or images will print blurrily.

                                The resolution as of now is to downgrade to 16.13.1 which is from May.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                                  last edited by DustinB3403

                                  @travisdh1 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  Agentless Linux vulnerability scanner looks interesting: https://n0where.net/linux-vulnerability-scanner-vuls.

                                  I'm going to have to look at this. Agentless would be much more convenient than Wazuh.

                                  ssl failure. . . . means I'm not going there.

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                                  • momurdaM
                                    momurda @DustinB3403
                                    last edited by momurda

                                    @dustinb3403 Cert expired 0.5 hours ago

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @momurda
                                      last edited by

                                      @momurda said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @dustinb3403 Cert expired 0.5 hours ago

                                      Still unacceptable.

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                                      • black3dynamiteB
                                        black3dynamite
                                        last edited by

                                        https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/07/google-linux-foundation-platinum-member

                                        “Open source is an essential part of Google’s culture…”

                                        It would be nice to have a native google backup and sync app for Linux.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m
                                          last edited by

                                          iOS 12 2FA Feature May Carry Bank Fraud Risk
                                          https://www.darkreading.com/endpoint/ios-12-2fa-feature-may-carry-bank-fraud-risk/d/d-id/1332196?_mc=rss_x_drr_edt_aud_dr_x_x-rss-simple

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @wrx7m
                                            last edited by

                                            @wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            iOS 12 2FA Feature May Carry Bank Fraud Risk
                                            https://www.darkreading.com/endpoint/ios-12-2fa-feature-may-carry-bank-fraud-risk/d/d-id/1332196?_mc=rss_x_drr_edt_aud_dr_x_x-rss-simple

                                            People shouldn't be thinking that a text message is 2FA anyway....

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