I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?
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@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
don't use it.
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@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
It doesn't have to be. I've got a Hyper-V host off domain working as easily as if it's on the domain. No issues at all, and was almost as quick to set up. The extra steps are minimal...
They aren't minimal. They are confusing as shit and it's stupid. They aren't anywhere as easy as ANY other hypervisor.
In fact, I don't even know why people say this. It's ridiculous. If you aren't using an existing AD infrastructure you should never be recommending Hyper-V as the hypervisor.
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@bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
don't use it.
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@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
It doesn't have to be. I've got a Hyper-V host off domain working as easily as if it's on the domain. No issues at all, and was almost as quick to set up. The extra steps are minimal...
They aren't minimal. They are confusing as shit and it's stupid. They aren't anywhere as easy as ANY other hypervisor.
You are cracking me up, man.
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@bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
don't use it.
:thumbs_up:
@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
It doesn't have to be. I've got a Hyper-V host off domain working as easily as if it's on the domain. No issues at all, and was almost as quick to set up. The extra steps are minimal...
They aren't minimal. They are confusing as shit and it's stupid. They aren't anywhere as easy as ANY other hypervisor.
That's why I simply join it to the existing domain like you would anything else and be done with it. It's a non-issue, and only provides benefits.
If you don't have an AD domain, or Hyper-V... what's the problem? None of this applies to you.
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@jaredbusch said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Also backups easy to handle on Hyper-V because the vendors all support it.
For the SMB sector you really need to only use Hyper-V or VMWare Essentials in order to get simple backups from Vendors like Veeam and Altaro.
SMB doing anything else is just crazy waste of man hours in most cases.
I love KVM. But not a single client has it in production.
This pretty much answers my original question, btw.
But I do see @bnrstnr point of view as well. I am not a fan of Hyper-V either.
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@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
If you don't have an AD domain, or Hyper-V... what's the problem? None of this applies to you.
I do have an AD domain, and I still choose not to use it. Nobody ever trusts MS anywhere else, and there is nothing but hate towards them, yet everybody on here recommends Hyper-V, it doesn't make sense to me.
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@irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
I find it funny that Microsoft doesn't use their own virtualization for Azure.
What are they using?
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Hyper-V must be more resource heavy since MS doesn't use it for Azure.
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@fateknollogee said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
@irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
I find it funny that Microsoft doesn't use their own virtualization for Azure.
What are they using?
They won't say... So likely KVM
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Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V
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@irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V
C'mon, you're going to quote an article from 2008.....you do realize we are in 2018?
Some of you guys are just ridiculous!!
Just yesterday, someone claimed you need drivers installed to run vm's in Hyper-V....where is that stupid face emoji !!
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@bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
If you don't have an AD domain, or Hyper-V... what's the problem? None of this applies to you.
I do have an AD domain, and I still choose not to use it. Nobody ever trusts MS anywhere else, and there is nothing but hate towards them, yet everybody on here recommends Hyper-V, it doesn't make sense to me.
It completely depends on the environment, which determines what you should run. Obviously in yours Hyper-V has no benefits. In others, it may not make any sense to run anything but Hyper-V.
What you run in an environment shouldn't be emotionally based.
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@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Obviously in yours Hyper-V has no benefits. In others, it may not make any sense to run anything but Hyper-V.
@bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
What specifically makes it more compatible than other hypervisors? I've run windows on several hypervisors and can't tell any difference.
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@fateknollogee said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
@irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V
C'mon, you're going to quote an article from 2008.....you do realize we are in 2018?
Some of you guys are just ridiculous!!
Just yesterday, someone claimed you need drivers installed to run vm's in Hyper-V....where is that stupid face emoji !!
It's on you to prove that has changed! You are ridiculous
I showed you proof that they didnt use Hyper-V. show me proof they do!
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@bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
I do have an AD domain, and I still choose not to use it. Nobody ever trusts MS anywhere else, and there is nothing but hate towards them, yet everybody on here recommends Hyper-V, it doesn't make sense to me.
Take your closed mind and GTFO. If you cannot think and have a discussion instead of bash on something with no logic, I have no desire to talk to you.
Why do you have an AD environment if you don't trust the vendor? that is just stupid as fuck.
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@irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V
It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.
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@jaredbusch said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Take your closed mind and GTFO. If you cannot think and have a discussion instead of bash on something with no logic, I have no desire to talk to you.
Why do you have an AD environment if you don't trust the vendor? that is just stupid as fuck.Dude, FFS I did ask for specific benefits and all I got was bullshit from @Obsolesce
I never said that I don't trust them. I said that everybody on here bitches and moans about them... actually I didn't say that, but I never said that I don't trust them.
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@bnrstnr said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
@jaredbusch said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Take your closed mind and GTFO. If you cannot think and have a discussion instead of bash on something with no logic, I have no desire to talk to you.
Why do you have an AD environment if you don't trust the vendor? that is just stupid as fuck.Dude, FFS I did ask for specific benefits and all I got was bullshit from @Obsolesce
I never said that I don't trust them. I said that everybody on here bitches and moans about them... actually I didn't say that, but I never said that I don't trust them.
I quoted you clearly saying you don't trust them.
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@jaredbusch said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
I quoted you clearly saying you don't trust them.
Show me. I said "nobody", I guess technically, I would be part of nobody if it was all encompasing. Even though I truly don't have mistrust for them. I was loosely stating that many people don't trust them, and a LOT of people bash them constantly
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@obsolesce said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
@irj said in I think I am missing something about Hyper-V....?:
Sounds like they are using KVM or another solution and using ideas to make improvements to Hyper-V
It's Azure Stack... running on a stripped down version of Hyper-V.
Ok.. Now why dont we get access to this super special version?
