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    • coliverC
      coliver @CloudKnight
      last edited by

      @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

      They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....

      The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.

      I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.

      Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?

      Hahah.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @CloudKnight
        last edited by

        @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

        They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....

        The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.

        I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.

        Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?

        ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.

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        • hobbit666H
          hobbit666
          last edited by

          We asked for a site to have a leased line. Was told there was no free capacity on the Exchange/Cab, and BT wanted just over £100K to install!!!!

          We said no we an't paying for the Upgrade to give everyone Fibre !!!! you do it and we will sign up under normal conditions 🙂

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          • CloudKnightC
            CloudKnight @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

            They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....

            The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.

            I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.

            Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?

            ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.

            wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
            So most people on adsl??

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @CloudKnight
              last edited by

              @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

              They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....

              The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.

              I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.

              Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?

              ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.

              wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
              So most people on adsl??

              adsl or copper yeah.

              And with our joke of a government it is likely to stay this way.

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              • CloudKnightC
                CloudKnight @hobbit666
                last edited by

                @hobbit666 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                We asked for a site to have a leased line. Was told there was no free capacity on the Exchange/Cab, and BT wanted just over £100K to install!!!!

                We said no we an't paying for the Upgrade to give everyone Fibre !!!! you do it and we will sign up under normal conditions 🙂

                Yeah it's funny how much BT used to charge for leased lines a few years ago for businesses, they have dropped down a lot thankfully now.

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                • CloudKnightC
                  CloudKnight @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                  They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....

                  The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.

                  I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.

                  Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?

                  ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.

                  wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
                  So most people on adsl??

                  adsl or copper yeah.

                  And with our joke of a government it is likely to stay this way.

                  Crazy, the top grossing country in the world and your government is not even investing in it's infrastructure...you could probably pay for it tenfold if you didn't spend as much on your military lol..

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @CloudKnight
                    last edited by coliver

                    @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                    They should of bit the bullet and dug up the uk streets years ago and just laid the fibre, instead BT have only put fibre to the cabinet at the end of the street....people want full fibre to the home now...not half copper and fibre....

                    The subsidies provided obviously weren't enough.

                    I have fibre to my house and it's great. . . and stupidly cheap as well.

                    Don't most US based homes have fibre direct to the premises? or do you have a mix of vdsl/adsl/fibre depending on state?

                    ha. . . maybe 1% of us homes have fibre to the house. I'm in that lucky percentage.

                    wow, didn't honestly know how it is out there!
                    So most people on adsl??

                    adsl or copper yeah.

                    And with our joke of a government it is likely to stay this way.

                    Crazy, the top grossing country in the world and your government is not even investing in it's infrastructure...you could probably pay for it tenfold if you didn't spend as much on your military lol..

                    Something something patriotism... something something socialism. 'Murica.

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @dbeato
                      last edited by

                      @dbeato The Update File is below
                      https://files.zimbra.com/downloads/8.8.6_GA_HF/zcs-patch-8.8.6_GA_HF_108839.tgz

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
                        last edited by

                        https://arstechnica.com/?p=1264509#p3

                        It's starting! Here's hoping it meets the marketing.

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                        • CloudKnightC
                          CloudKnight @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @CloudKnight
                            last edited by

                            @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                            @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                            Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

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                            • dafyreD
                              dafyre @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                              @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                              Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                              Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @dafyre
                                last edited by

                                @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                                Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                                Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                                Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                                But the science and mission of NASA is great.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @JaredBusch
                                  last edited by

                                  @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                  @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                                  Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                                  Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                                  Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                                  But the science and mission of NASA is great.

                                  This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

                                  While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

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                                  • KellyK
                                    Kelly @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                    @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                                    Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                                    Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                                    Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                                    But the science and mission of NASA is great.

                                    This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

                                    While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

                                    I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

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                                    • NerdyDadN
                                      NerdyDad @Kelly
                                      last edited by

                                      @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                      @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                                      Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                                      Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                                      Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                                      But the science and mission of NASA is great.

                                      This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

                                      While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

                                      I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

                                      If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
                                        last edited by

                                        @nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                        @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                                        Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                                        Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                                        Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                                        But the science and mission of NASA is great.

                                        This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

                                        While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

                                        I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

                                        If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.

                                        It's like how IT Buyers just hire other people to do the job they are tasked with. You can cut them out and let the business do that directly and save all that money.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @Kelly
                                          last edited by

                                          @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                          @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                                          Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                                          Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                                          Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as theirbudget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                                          But the science and mission of NASA is great.

                                          This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

                                          While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

                                          I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

                                          Because they don’t generally do the same research, and what NASA does is passed to the rest of the science community.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @NerdyDad
                                            last edited by

                                            @nerdydad said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @kelly said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @coliver said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @dafyre said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @stuartjordan said in Miscellaneous Tech News:

                                            @coliver SpaceX seems to be in the headlines a lot these days, all these achievements, what's Nasa doing these days lol??

                                            Learning from SpaceX on how to operate a tight ship. . .

                                            Or most likely offering to pay SpaceX so NASA can't take the blame when something goes wrong.

                                            Totally not true. NASA itself is a great organization. Government bloat, sure, though even there not a lot as their budget has consistently shrunk year after year.

                                            But the science and mission of NASA is great.

                                            This I agree with. They fund and support a huge portion of our climate science and most of our current understanding comes from NASA missions and satellites, as well as their counterparts in other countries.

                                            While bloated I'm not convinced they should be doing commercial missions anyway.

                                            I don't get why NASA is doing climate science. We have NOAA for that. It is essentially a duplication/division of effort.

                                            If they worked in tandem with each other with defined scope, roles, and responsibilities, then I would see that being the best. NASA be in charge of getting the stuff into space. NOAA will take care of the satellite and reporting back. Heck. Cut NASA out and just contract with Space-X to get it up there. NASA is just the facilitator.

                                            That is a total lack of understanding

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