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      travisdh1
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      http://www.zdnet.com/article/cisco-you-need-to-patch-our-security-devices-again-for-dangerous-asa-vpn-bug/

      You need another patch for any ASA device running a VPN. Apparently they "missed" some areas of concern.

      Overpriced and don't do security well... I really feel sorry for any of you stuck with their junk.

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        Net Runner
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        Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

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          black3dynamite @Net Runner
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          @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

          Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

          EdgeMax devices is popular here.

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            dbeato
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            Yes, there are better posts than that but yeah it is needed another update 😞

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              Dashrender @Net Runner
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              @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

              Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

              Ubiquiti gear.
              Way less expensive, life of the unit free updates, as good or often better performance at HUGE price savings.
              Now if you need specialized gear, that's another story, but normal firewalls/routers, switches and APs - you're much better off.

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                RojoLoco @Net Runner
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                @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                Literally any other brand would be a better choice, but Ubiquiti is the way to go.

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                  scottalanmiller @Net Runner
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                  @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                  Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                  "Standard" in the way that doesn't mean anything good. They are the "standard" for VARs to push on the SMB market.

                  http://www.smbitjournal.com/2016/10/no-one-ever-got-fired-for-buying/

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                    coliver @Net Runner
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                    @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                    Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                    Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

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                      travisdh1 @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                      Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                      Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                      Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                      Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

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                        popester @travisdh1
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                        @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                        Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                        Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                        Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                        Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                        Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

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                          scottalanmiller @popester
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                          @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                          Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                          Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                          Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                          Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                          Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                          You should not look at the $45 model, it's not enough for business use. The ERL is the starter unit for business and is often $95, but can be found for closer to $80.

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                            travisdh1 @popester
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                            @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                            Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                            Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                            Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                            Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                            Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                            I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

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                              coliver @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                              Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                              Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                              Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                              Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                              Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                              I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                              The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

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                                thwr @popester
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                                @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                sco starts to look silly.

                                Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious l

                                EdgeRouter X with or without SFP

                                If you need something faster, EdgeRouter 4/6. Need more? EdgeRouter Infinity

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                                  thwr @coliver
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                                  @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                  Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                  Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                  Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                  Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                  Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                  I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                  The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                  I'll get one in a few days :grinning_face:

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                                    travisdh1 @thwr
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                                    @thwr said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                    Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                    Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                    Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                    Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                    Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                    I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                    The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                    I'll get one in a few days :grinning_face:

                                    Lucky man!

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                                      JaredBusch @coliver
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                                      @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                      @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                      @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                      @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                      Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                      Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                      Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                      Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                      Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                      I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                      The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                      I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

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                                        JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                                        @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                        Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                        Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                        Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                        Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                        Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                        I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                        The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                        I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

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                                          RojoLoco @JaredBusch
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                                          @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                          @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                          @popester said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                          @coliver said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                          @net-runner said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                          Well, true. But Cisco is a kind of standard for networking equipment nowadays and been those for pretty long time already. What would you recommend as an alternative?

                                          Dell, HP, Ubiquiti, Mikrotik, even Netgear. There are dozens of switch and router manufacturers in this space that are on par with Cisco's performance and have the same support system for significantly less price.

                                          Ubiquiti especially, as their $45 router will outperform a Cisco ASA device that start around $3500.

                                          Cisco devices do have their place, but it's one of those things where if you don't know beyond a shadow of doubt that you need a certain Cisco device, you probably don't. Add on the cost difference, and Cisco starts to look silly.

                                          Can i get a model number of that one? I need to take a serious look at this stuff.

                                          I agree with @scottalanmiller, just because it's better than Cisco doesn't make it the right choice. ERL and EdgeRouter 4 are on my short list.

                                          The ER-4 is on my list to get. That thing has some decent specs. A decent upgrade from the ERL from the looks of it.

                                          I am currently makign out with an ER4... so sexy....

                                          If you keep posting pics, your wife might find out....

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                                            Alex Sage @JaredBusch
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                                            @jaredbusch said in Cisco: we're not competent.:

                                            I am currently making out with an ER4... so sexy....

                                            Does she put out?

                                            How many Mps? =P

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