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      Obsolesce @IRJ
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      @irj said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

      I am debating whether I should purchase VMWare worksation or move to another solution.

      VMWare Workstation is not a solution I would use for hosting a VM. I'd move to KVM on Fedora. But if you have to use Ubuntu, KVM on there will work fine too.

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        IRJ @Obsolesce
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        @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

        @irj said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

        Part one....

        I am moving from Linux to Windows host

        Part two....

        Should I purchase VMWare workstation or should I setup a different solution?

        Part 1:
        This is the opposite of what your title and OP says...

        I have no idea what you mean.

        Title says move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host

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          IRJ
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          Sorry guys doing alot of things here at once so I cant think how to talk (type) right now.

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            bnrstnr
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            Do you have to purchase a new license of VMware Workstation? Is it not transferable to the new OS? I'd imagine you can just use your key on the Ubuntu/Windows install, whatever it is you're moving to.

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              IRJ @bnrstnr
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              @bnrstnr said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

              Do you have to purchase a new license of VMware Workstation? Is it not transferable to the new OS? I'd imagine you can just use your key on the Ubuntu/Windows install, whatever it is you're moving to.

              I am pretty sure it is a different license.

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                Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                Fixed.

                No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                or

                migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

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                  Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                  @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                  @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                  @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                  @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                  @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                  @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                  Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                  Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                  Fixed.

                  No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                  It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                  or

                  migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                  GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                  Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

                  Yeah it's part of the Linux Kernel.

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                    Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                    @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                    @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                    @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                    @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                    @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                    @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                    @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                    Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                    Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                    Fixed.

                    No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                    It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                    or

                    migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                    GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                    Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

                    Yeah it's part of the Linux Kernel.

                    As a Linux outsider - this sentence is meaningless to me.

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                      Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                      @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                      Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                      Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                      Fixed.

                      No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                      It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                      or

                      migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                      GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                      Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

                      Yeah it's part of the Linux Kernel.

                      As a Linux outsider - this sentence is meaningless to me.

                      Why? Windows has a Kernel too. It's just that Hyper-V isn't part of it.

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                        Dashrender @Obsolesce
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                        @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                        Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                        Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                        Fixed.

                        No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                        It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                        or

                        migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                        GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                        Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

                        Yeah it's part of the Linux Kernel.

                        As a Linux outsider - this sentence is meaningless to me.

                        Why? Windows has a Kernel too. It's just that Hyper-V isn't part of it.

                        Why would that matter?

                        I suppose you are implying that if Hyper-V was natively supported in the Windows Kernel, then they too could run side by side?
                        Though I'm not sure why you'd really want that?

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                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                          @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                          Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                          Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                          Fixed.

                          No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                          It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                          or

                          migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                          GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                          Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

                          Yeah it's part of the Linux Kernel.

                          As a Linux outsider - this sentence is meaningless to me.

                          I'm confused, what does Linux have to do with the statement? Take out the word Linux, and it means exactly the same thing. Kernel is a generic term, nothing specific to Linux. It's just coincidental that the item you asked about is related to Linux.

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                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                            Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                            Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                            Fixed.

                            No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                            It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                            or

                            migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                            GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                            Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

                            Yeah it's part of the Linux Kernel.

                            As a Linux outsider - this sentence is meaningless to me.

                            Why? Windows has a Kernel too. It's just that Hyper-V isn't part of it.

                            Why would that matter?

                            I suppose you are implying that if Hyper-V was natively supported in the Windows Kernel, then they too could run side by side?
                            Though I'm not sure why you'd really want that?

                            Not side by side, you are mixing concepts here. Let's back up...

                            Windows and Ubuntu are operating systems.
                            NTKernel and Linux are kernels.
                            KVM is a virtualization component that is part of Linux.

                            When you run KVM, you are also running Linux. Linux becomes a hypervisor, with a monolithic system kernel, together. They are the same thing here.

                            NTKernel has no equivalent to this, nothing else does, but the closest think is VMware ESXi. If you install ESXi, you are seeing ESXi, nothing else. It has a shell of its own.

                            Like ESXi, KVM can host a shell. Because it can host a shell, you can layer on an OS directly onto it. If you do so and those layers are Ubuntu, then you have Ubuntu directly on KVM, rather than in a VM.

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                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                              @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                              @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                              @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                              @dashrender said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                              @tim_g said in Move Linux VM from Windows Host to Linux Host:

                              Do you mean migrate a VM from VMWare workstation, to Ubuntu?

                              Yeah, that's not really possible because Ubuntu is not a VM platform.

                              Fixed.

                              No - Ubuntu is still not a VM platform.

                              It might be right to say - migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to KVM running in/on Ubuntu

                              or

                              migrate a VM from VMWare Workstation to VirtualBox running on Ubuntu

                              GO back and read... https://mangolassi.it/post/374437

                              Well - Scott just informed me that Ubuntu running KVM is both Ubuntu AND KVM running side by side (I guess). It's not like Hyper-V role on Windows, where Hyper-V shims itself under Windows Server.

                              Correct that there is no shim, but "side by side" is a confusing way to look at it, they are one and the same, rather than side by side.

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                                stacksofplates
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                                Ya I'd just move to KVM on Ubuntu. it will perform better being a type 1 and you can leverage all of the extras (things like libguestfs, the virt tools, etc).

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