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      bnrstnr
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      You might be able to program Twilio to have users opt-in to a notify group, then when somebody is sick or whatever, they message the number and it forwards to all users that are enrolled... That way its easy to adapt to new hires, etc.

      Not positive that it can do this, but I was reading some of their stuff on notifications and SMS and it really sounds possible.

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        Dashrender @dbeato
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        @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

        @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

        @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

        There's always email, lol.

        Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

        Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

        my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

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        • dbeatoD
          dbeato @Dashrender
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          @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

          @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

          @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

          There's always email, lol.

          Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

          Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

          my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

          I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

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          • coliverC
            coliver @dbeato
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            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

            @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

            @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

            @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

            There's always email, lol.

            Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

            Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

            my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

            I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

            But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

              @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

              @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

              @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

              There's always email, lol.

              Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

              Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

              my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

              Exactly, email and text show up the same since, you know, 2006.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                There's always email, lol.

                Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                Right, to users they might not even GET texts on their phones!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                  @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                  @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                  There's always email, lol.

                  Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                  Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                  That end users choose to ignore some messages and read others means two things...

                  1. Either format will be ignored at random, choosing text is just as likely to be ignored as email, it's totally random.
                  2. They are choosing to ignore the message, which makes it not the company's problem.
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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                    @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                    @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                    @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                    @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                    There's always email, lol.

                    Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                    Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                    my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                    I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                    Right, to users they might not even GET texts on their phones!

                    'merica - of course we get texts 😛

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                    • dbeatoD
                      dbeato @coliver
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                      @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                      @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                      @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                      @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                      @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                      There's always email, lol.

                      Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                      Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                      my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                      I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                      But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                      If they are techs I can see that.

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                      • dbeatoD
                        dbeato @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                        @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                        @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                        There's always email, lol.

                        Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                        Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                        That end users choose to ignore some messages and read others means two things...

                        1. Either format will be ignored at random, choosing text is just as likely to be ignored as email, it's totally random.
                        2. They are choosing to ignore the message, which makes it not the company's problem.

                        Yes, that is the right word, "choose to"

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          I don't know any non techs that have a smart phone who don't have email on it. This is not a real issue.

                          I do know people who choose to still have flip phones, and those people could likely have email on their phone, but don't - and they also choose not to use texting either.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                            @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                            @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                            @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                            There's always email, lol.

                            Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                            Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                            my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                            I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                            But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                            If they are techs I can see that.

                            Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                              There's always email, lol.

                              Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                              Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                              my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                              I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                              But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                              If they are techs I can see that.

                              Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."
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                              • dbeatoD
                                dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                There's always email, lol.

                                Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                                Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                                my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                                I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                                But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                                If they are techs I can see that.

                                Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

                                Okay, that's totally fine. I am just going by experience of my last three jobs. They have it but they ignore it purposefully.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @dbeato
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                                  @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                  There's always email, lol.

                                  Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                                  Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                                  my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                                  I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                                  But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                                  If they are techs I can see that.

                                  Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

                                  Okay, that's totally fine. I am just going by experience of my last three jobs. They have it but they ignore it purposefully.

                                  Oh sure, but that makes it a success. Once they are purposefully ignoring management, there is nothing wrong with the tech. In fact, that they have to purposefully ignore their managers is basically proof that the tech decision was correct.

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                    There's always email, lol.

                                    Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                                    Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                                    my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                                    I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                                    But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                                    If they are techs I can see that.

                                    Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

                                    Okay, that's totally fine. I am just going by experience of my last three jobs. They have it but they ignore it purposefully.

                                    Oh sure, but that makes it a success. Once they are purposefully ignoring management, there is nothing wrong with the tech. In fact, that they have to purposefully ignore their managers is basically proof that the tech decision was correct.

                                    Of course, now they are going to be held accountable 🙂

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                      There's always email, lol.

                                      Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                                      Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                                      my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                                      I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                                      But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                                      If they are techs I can see that.

                                      Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

                                      Okay, that's totally fine. I am just going by experience of my last three jobs. They have it but they ignore it purposefully.

                                      Oh sure, but that makes it a success. Once they are purposefully ignoring management, there is nothing wrong with the tech. In fact, that they have to purposefully ignore their managers is basically proof that the tech decision was correct.

                                      I don't really follow this logic. because they are ignoring management (as proved by them ignoring email) that somehow proves that email was the right decision?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                        There's always email, lol.

                                        Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                                        Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                                        my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                                        I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                                        But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                                        If they are techs I can see that.

                                        Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

                                        Okay, that's totally fine. I am just going by experience of my last three jobs. They have it but they ignore it purposefully.

                                        Oh sure, but that makes it a success. Once they are purposefully ignoring management, there is nothing wrong with the tech. In fact, that they have to purposefully ignore their managers is basically proof that the tech decision was correct.

                                        I don't really follow this logic. because they are ignoring management (as proved by them ignoring email) that somehow proves that email was the right decision?

                                        Yes, because they HAD to ignore it, rather than not getting it.

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                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                          There's always email, lol.

                                          Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                                          Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                                          my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                                          I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                                          But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                                          If they are techs I can see that.

                                          Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

                                          Okay, that's totally fine. I am just going by experience of my last three jobs. They have it but they ignore it purposefully.

                                          Oh sure, but that makes it a success. Once they are purposefully ignoring management, there is nothing wrong with the tech. In fact, that they have to purposefully ignore their managers is basically proof that the tech decision was correct.

                                          I don't really follow this logic. because they are ignoring management (as proved by them ignoring email) that somehow proves that email was the right decision?

                                          Yes, because they HAD to ignore it, rather than not getting it.

                                          I still don't get it - you could say that about any number of technologies..

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @coliver said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @dashrender said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @dbeato said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            @dafyre said in Getting rid of Group text as a means of calling out.:

                                            There's always email, lol.

                                            Yeah, seriously, why is email not the answer here?

                                            Because of people, they just don’t read emails. People are glued to their phones...

                                            my email is on my phone.. I read it the same as I read txts.

                                            I get it, it makes sense to us but to users is a different story 😞

                                            But these are techs right? I'd be very surprised if they also didn't have email on the phone.

                                            If they are techs I can see that.

                                            Anyone who needs to be reached would fall into the category of "should have email."

                                            Okay, that's totally fine. I am just going by experience of my last three jobs. They have it but they ignore it purposefully.

                                            Oh sure, but that makes it a success. Once they are purposefully ignoring management, there is nothing wrong with the tech. In fact, that they have to purposefully ignore their managers is basically proof that the tech decision was correct.

                                            I don't really follow this logic. because they are ignoring management (as proved by them ignoring email) that somehow proves that email was the right decision?

                                            Yes, because they HAD to ignore it, rather than not getting it.

                                            I still don't get it - you could say that about any number of technologies..

                                            Sure, but not texting, because you can't be sure it is delivered (texting doesn't guarantee that) and assuming the company doesn't provide it, they can't request that you unblock it. So while lots of things might apply, it's just the email is as good as it gets, and texting is about as inappropriate as it gets (as an option its fine, as a requirement, it's pretty bad.) The point being, you can't improve the situation by choosing something other than email - since you can't get better, it proves it was the right, or a right, choice.

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