The Myth of Security is Layers
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@tim_g said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
Just because they are things you should already have in place doesn't mean it can't be referred to as a layer.
You certainly don't need a firewall or antivirus to function.
OK fine, but really, what benefit do you gain by calling it a layer? I've given you one of the detriments.
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@dashrender said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
@tim_g said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
Just because they are things you should already have in place doesn't mean it can't be referred to as a layer.
You certainly don't need a firewall or antivirus to function.
OK fine, but really, what benefit do you gain by calling it a layer? I've given you one of the detriments.
None. Just sayin.
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I see what you're saying. What's the alternative then? How do you explain to a non technical client you need a firewall at the gateway and a firewall on the computer?
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@mike-davis said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
I see what you're saying. What's the alternative then? How do you explain to a non technical client you need a firewall at the gateway and a firewall on the computer?
Has nothing to do with layers. They serve completely different functions.
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@tim_g said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
Has nothing to do with layers. They serve completely different functions.
Correct. What analogy would you use to talk to a non technical person about all the things we do in the name of security?
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@mike-davis said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
I see what you're saying. What's the alternative then? How do you explain to a non technical client you need a firewall at the gateway and a firewall on the computer?
Well ideally you don't explain technical things to non-technical people, that's why you are there, to do the tech pieces. Any need to explain tech to people who don't know tech means the business has failed.
Once in that failed position, the only real option is "because they aren't teh same thing and you need both, do you want to be secured or not"?
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@mike-davis said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
@tim_g said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
Has nothing to do with layers. They serve completely different functions.
Correct. What analogy would you use to talk to a non technical person about all the things we do in the name of security?
Mention examples from non-tech perhaps.
Like a store. Do you lock the door? Yes. Do you still hire a guard? Yes. Do you still have an alarm? Yes. Do you still call the cops if those things fail? Yes.
If AV means you don't need a firewall, then doesn't a door lock mean you don't need a guard or cops or alarms? Same thing here... each does a different function. Just because you locked the front door doesn't mean that you can not also lock the safe or employ a guard or have an alarm.
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IDK, Has anyone here ever watched Mad Men?
Its not a "wheel"... its a "time machine".
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Also @scottalanmiller I am not so sure you are right. The government has at least layers of firewall you have to hack down before you gain access...
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"Just cracked the out layer" and he is going to start an "Intrusion Inspection"
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Also, how do I hook my Unifi to router to my Unifi overhead speaker so that Siri audible announces hackers and sounds an "alarm" sound effect.
This must be the future...
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@bigbear said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
Also, how do I hook my Unifi to router to my Unifi overhead speaker so that Siri audible announces hackers and sounds an "alarm" sound effect.
This must be the future...
That's near the setting that changes colors along the network diagram lines to show how far along the hacker is.
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@stacksofplates said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
@bigbear said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
Also, how do I hook my Unifi to router to my Unifi overhead speaker so that Siri audible announces hackers and sounds an "alarm" sound effect.
This must be the future...
That's near the setting that changes colors along the network diagram lines to show how far along the hacker is.
I never understood that. Why not just turn off the system?
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I have 8 blinky boxes people have to hack into to get to my stuff.
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@brianlittlejohn said in The Myth of Security is Layers:
I have 8 blinky boxes people have to hack into to get to my stuff.
Oh yeah? Well, I have... I have...
Yeah, I got nothing.
