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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by

      Well, you have several items that need to be addressed.

      • Is the data that is on this unit worth recovering / buying a replacement model and getting it up and running?
      • What will your archival process be?
      • What platform do you need to use going forward?

      Synology is fine and ties in wonderfully to cloud storage providers (makes offsite backups easy).

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      • NerdyDadN
        NerdyDad @DustinB3403
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        @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

        As Jared set, you may be able to drop these drives into a different unit and be back up and running. I on the other hand don't know if I'd want to go down that path.

        Using hybrid raid, and different hardware.

        Paying for recovery specialist will cost a small fortune as well. So is there value in getting this data back?

        As of right now, there is no data that we would lose in the backups. Its more of going back into time to recover data that might have been changed, if necessary.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
          last edited by DustinB3403

          @nerdydad said in Synology Recovery:

          Synology DS1813+

          You can get the same model (used + like new) on amazon for $613.99 + SH.

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          • NerdyDadN
            NerdyDad @DustinB3403
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            @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

            Well, you have several items that need to be addressed.

            • Is the data that is on this unit worth recovering / buying a replacement model and getting it up and running?
            • What will your archival process be?
            • What platform do you need to use going forward?

            Synology is fine and ties in wonderfully to cloud storage providers (makes offsite backups easy).

            We are currently using Veeam B&R 9.5, which I love. It ties in with local and cloud storage providers. We just need to figure out a way of using it for archiving as well, if possible. Otherwise, we may need to start from scratch for an archiving system. We've considered both tape and external hard drives for media.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403 @NerdyDad
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              @nerdydad said in Synology Recovery:

              @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

              Well, you have several items that need to be addressed.

              • Is the data that is on this unit worth recovering / buying a replacement model and getting it up and running?
              • What will your archival process be?
              • What platform do you need to use going forward?

              Synology is fine and ties in wonderfully to cloud storage providers (makes offsite backups easy).

              We are currently using Veeam B&R 9.5, which I love. It ties in with local and cloud storage providers. We just need to figure out a way of using it for archiving as well, if possible. Otherwise, we may need to start from scratch for an archiving system. We've considered both tape and external hard drives for media.

              How much storage is being used here?

              • Why tape?
              • Why external hard drives?
              • Why not a remote offsite cloud storage provider that gets written to once, per data-set and not overwritten?
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                bnrstnr
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                https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/Storage/How_can_I_recover_data_from_my_DiskStation_using_a_PC

                Looks like they have a means to copy from the drives directly connected to a machine running Ubuntu

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @bnrstnr
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                  @bnrstnr said in Synology Recovery:

                  https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/Storage/How_can_I_recover_data_from_my_DiskStation_using_a_PC

                  Looks like they have a means to copy from the drives directly connected to a machine running Ubuntu

                  Not a bad find, he just needs 8 SATA cables and power for them.

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                    bnrstnr
                    last edited by bnrstnr

                    https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/General/How_to_migrate_between_Synology_NAS_DSM_5_0_and_later

                    Also, you can definitely migrate to dissimilar hardware models... Scroll about half way down

                    You will lose some settings, but the data should remain intact.

                    Edit: Looks like the source and destination machines would need to be on the same firmware version... which could be tricky if you don't know or didn't keep up with the updates.

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                    • NerdyDadN
                      NerdyDad @DustinB3403
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                      @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                      @nerdydad said in Synology Recovery:

                      @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                      Well, you have several items that need to be addressed.

                      • Is the data that is on this unit worth recovering / buying a replacement model and getting it up and running?
                      • What will your archival process be?
                      • What platform do you need to use going forward?

                      Synology is fine and ties in wonderfully to cloud storage providers (makes offsite backups easy).

                      We are currently using Veeam B&R 9.5, which I love. It ties in with local and cloud storage providers. We just need to figure out a way of using it for archiving as well, if possible. Otherwise, we may need to start from scratch for an archiving system. We've considered both tape and external hard drives for media.

                      How much storage is being used here?

                      • Why tape?
                      • Why external hard drives?
                      • Why not a remote offsite cloud storage provider that gets written to once, per data-set and not overwritten?

                      Why tape? or Why external hard drives? We're just looking for a medium with longevity.

                      We already have an offsite cloud storage provider and looking to expand our capacity with them.

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                      • NerdyDadN
                        NerdyDad @bnrstnr
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                        @bnrstnr said in Synology Recovery:

                        https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/General/How_to_migrate_between_Synology_NAS_DSM_5_0_and_later

                        Also, you can definitely migrate to dissimilar hardware models... Scroll about half way down

                        You will lose some settings, but the data should remain intact.

                        Edit: Looks like the source and destination machines would need to be on the same firmware version... which could be tricky if you don't know or didn't keep up with the updates.

                        That was one of the last things that I did to it before it went down. That unit was on the latest firmware, so hopefully that will be a saving grace. Thanks for the find.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce
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                          Wasn't the whole point of going with Synology in production for the support first, then device reliability? Seems like you're getting neither.

                          Any reason you didn't just go with an older dell like a R620 or something with local storage? Seems to be much more reliable and same price range-ish. If the server dies, soooo easy to replace parts and get going again.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
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                            @tim_g I wouldn't think support would be great on a unit as old as this. Which this model is closing in on 8 years.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @DustinB3403
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                              @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                              @tim_g I wouldn't think support would be great on a unit as old as this. Which this model is closing in on 8 years.

                              Oh, didn't know it was an old model. But that explains it. I would never put data on such a device that would deserve a drive recovery service if it failed. It'd be best to stick with something with support and reliability, or at least upgrade when those two needs are coming to an end.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g now I don't know if this one he owns is close to 8 years old. Could be younger, but still.

                                Time to replace it eitherway.

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                                • NerdyDadN
                                  NerdyDad @DustinB3403
                                  last edited by

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                                  @tim_g now I don't know if this one he owns is close to 8 years old. Could be younger, but still.

                                  Time to replace it eitherway.

                                  This one is about 2 years old. Was kept in a datacenter its whole life. Should have had many more years in it.

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                                  • dbeatoD
                                    dbeato @bnrstnr
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                                    @bnrstnr said in Synology Recovery:

                                    https://www.synology.com/en-us/knowledgebase/DSM/tutorial/General/How_to_migrate_between_Synology_NAS_DSM_5_0_and_later

                                    Also, you can definitely migrate to dissimilar hardware models... Scroll about half way down

                                    You will lose some settings, but the data should remain intact.

                                    Edit: Looks like the source and destination machines would need to be on the same firmware version... which could be tricky if you don't know or didn't keep up with the updates.

                                    Doesn’t need to be on the same firmware, I have done it many times. It will work fine.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @dbeato
                                      last edited by

                                      @dbeato said in Synology Recovery:

                                      Doesn’t need to be on the same firmware, I have done it many times. It will work fine.

                                      That bold part is a bit disconcerting.

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                                      • dbeatoD
                                        dbeato @DustinB3403
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                                        @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                                        @dbeato said in Synology Recovery:

                                        Doesn’t need to be on the same firmware, I have done it many times. It will work fine.

                                        That bold part is a bit disconcerting.

                                        Disconcerting for SMB? Meanung I have done it around 10 times for thousands of Synology installed? That sounds good to me.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @dbeato
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                                          @dbeato said in Synology Recovery:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                                          @dbeato said in Synology Recovery:

                                          Doesn’t need to be on the same firmware, I have done it many times. It will work fine.

                                          That bold part is a bit disconcerting.

                                          Disconcerting for SMB? Meanung I have done it around 10 times for thousands of Synology installed? That sounds good to me.

                                          Ahh well that's a bit different.

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                                          • dbeatoD
                                            dbeato @DustinB3403
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                                            @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                                            @dbeato said in Synology Recovery:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in Synology Recovery:

                                            @dbeato said in Synology Recovery:

                                            Doesn’t need to be on the same firmware, I have done it many times. It will work fine.

                                            That bold part is a bit disconcerting.

                                            Disconcerting for SMB? Meanung I have done it around 10 times for thousands of Synology installed? That sounds good to me.

                                            Ahh well that's a bit different.

                                            In 7 years I have contacted Synology Support two times, because of faulty hardware.

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