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    • Reid CooperR
      Reid Cooper @Minion Queen
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      @minion-queen said in MSP charged with extortion:

      Last I knew he was still waiting to hear anything at all. The town is stalling 😞

      That's how these things work. No need to have a real case, drive a business out of business using the legal system as a weapon. No due process, no need to even go to court.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.

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        • PenguinWranglerP
          PenguinWrangler @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

          Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.

          I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @PenguinWrangler
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            @penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:

            @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

            Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.

            I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.

            Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

              @penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:

              @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

              Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.

              I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.

              Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.

              We are unfortunately becoming more and more a police state ...

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              • travisdh1T
                travisdh1 @IRJ
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                @irj said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:

                @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.

                I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.

                Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.

                We are a police state ...

                ftfy

                Unlike most, I know the how and when it actually happened. Won't get into that here tho.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @travisdh1
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                  @travisdh1 said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @irj said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @penguinwrangler said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                  Serious reminder that corrption in America, having to pay off local officials, is just the same as it is in the third world.

                  I didn't believe this until working at the law firm I work at now that mainly defends businesses. It is absolutely horrible what happens to businesses, especially SMBs.

                  Yeah, there is no protection for ordinary people in America. The law isn't there to protect people, it is a weapon of the rich and powerful.

                  We are a police state ...

                  ftfy

                  Unlike most, I know the how and when it actually happened. Won't get into that here tho.

                  It seems like we tend to agree on things...

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    http://www.channelfutures.com/channel-futures/msp-goes-broke-while-prosecutors-weigh-charges-destroying-o365-data

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                    • jimkJ
                      jimk @travisdh1
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                      @travisdh1 I'm curious how you how and when "it" actually happened? I don't know you.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @jimk
                        last edited by

                        @jimk said in MSP charged with extortion:

                        @travisdh1 I'm curious how you how and when "it" actually happened? I don't know you.

                        he's talking about the police state, I think.

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                        • jimkJ
                          jimk @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller Okay.

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                          • bigbearB
                            bigbear
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                            Of course you can shut off services for non-payment. The BIG caveat here is Office 365, its not the MSP's service and during your Cloud Partner training with Microsoft you have to specifically illustrate that you understand this on the tests.

                            Even with the CSP program where you are directly billing the customer, you can not just reset their passwords and shut them off. You can stop paying and they can login to start their own subscription.

                            It reads as if he shut off access by resetting their Office 365 passwords.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @bigbear
                              last edited by

                              @bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:

                              Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.

                              Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                @bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.

                                Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.

                                I'm just dumbfounded by shit like this.

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                                • bigbearB
                                  bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                  @bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                  Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.

                                  Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.

                                  I always had a well defined exit clause in IT contracts, but this was long before the days of the Cloud. Twice I have had a customer exit, and it was a very smooth transition. One even came back to us later.

                                  The customer always had access to their own backups and the servers were on premise, so these were different times.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                    @bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                    Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.

                                    Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.

                                    I'm just dumbfounded by shit like this.

                                    Maybe you missed... Georgia.

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                      @bigbear said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                      Of course you can shut off services for non-payment.

                                      Not in Georgia. Your rights are not spelled out by the law.

                                      I'm just dumbfounded by shit like this.

                                      Georgia is FUCKED. Don't get it twisted. Plus, Forsyth County can eat all the dicks.... they are a long standing bit of ridiculous. I feel really bad that Jim got fucked over like that.

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                                      • Mike DavisM
                                        Mike Davis
                                        last edited by

                                        Was the $78,000 that they "owed" past due, or was that the amount remaining on the contract? I wonder how many months behind they were and what notices had been sent out. I'm wondering how I would handle a situation like that if it ever came up.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Mike Davis
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                                          @mike-davis said in MSP charged with extortion:

                                          Was the $78,000 that they "owed" past due, or was that the amount remaining on the contract? I wonder how many months behind they were and what notices had been sent out. I'm wondering how I would handle a situation like that if it ever came up.

                                          At some point in one of these threads, maybe not on ML, most of those details were listed out. The details as we had originally seen them (it's quite some time now) there wasn't any grey area at all. They hadn't been paying, they weren't going to pay, they were outright trying to steal from him, they had loads and loads of warning... and when they weren't able to steal through pressure, they turned to corrupt government workers that, I assume, they bribed to up the extortion level beyond what he could take.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
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                                            It was remainder of contract. They canceled early.

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