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                  researching electric toothbrushes. Want to spend £50-£60

                  Rotating or sonic?

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                    nadnerB @hobbit666
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                    researching electric toothbrushes. Want to spend £50-£60

                    Rotating or sonic?

                    Sonic is for screwdrivers 😛

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                      @hobbit666 sonic care is supposed to be fantastic. unsure of cost, but my fiance uses it all the time

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                        @wirestyle22 They seem to range from £20 to £250

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                          Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                          In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                          I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

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                            wirestyle22 @Jimmy9008
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                            @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                            Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                            In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                            I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                            That sounds incredibly low

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                              Jimmy9008 @wirestyle22
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                              @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                              @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                              Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                              In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                              I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                              That sounds incredibly low

                              Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mid 50s in all honesty.

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                                wirestyle22 @Jimmy9008
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                                @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                                In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                                I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                                That sounds incredibly low

                                Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

                                If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

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                                  Jimmy9008 @wirestyle22
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                                  @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                  @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                  @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                  Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                                  In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                                  I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                                  That sounds incredibly low

                                  Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

                                  If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

                                  Yeah, I should be. But I have never pushed for any certs or anything, and have only been in the industry for around 6 years.

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                                    wirestyle22 @Jimmy9008
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                                    @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                    Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                                    In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                                    I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                                    That sounds incredibly low

                                    Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

                                    If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

                                    Yeah, I should be. But I have never pushed for any certs or anything, and have only been in the industry for around 6 years.

                                    You probably know more than I do and I made more than that the last job I had. You might want to look for a new job honestly.

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                                      Jimmy9008 @wirestyle22
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                                      @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                      @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                      @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                      @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                      Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                                      In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                                      I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                                      That sounds incredibly low

                                      Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

                                      If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

                                      Yeah, I should be. But I have never pushed for any certs or anything, and have only been in the industry for around 6 years.

                                      You probably know more than I do and I made more than that the last job I had. You might want to look for a new job honestly.

                                      Its all self learned and experience. Without the certs its difficult getting past the HR goons. Until now, im actually happy with salary. Im just not happy with 45 - 50... for taking on all that extra work

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                                        wirestyle22 @Jimmy9008
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                                        @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                        Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                                        In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                                        I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                                        That sounds incredibly low

                                        Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mind 50s in all honesty.

                                        If you're actually a Systems Administrator you should be making a lot more than that, so I'm really not sure

                                        Yeah, I should be. But I have never pushed for any certs or anything, and have only been in the industry for around 6 years.

                                        You probably know more than I do and I made more than that the last job I had. You might want to look for a new job honestly.

                                        Its all self learned and experience. Without the certs its difficult getting past the HR goons. Until now, im actually happy with salary. Im just not happy with 45 - 50... for taking on all that extra work

                                        Same situation here. The only cert I had was my A+ due to CARF accreditation requiring it.

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                                          dafyre @Jimmy9008
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                                          @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                          @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                          Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                                          In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                                          I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                                          That sounds incredibly low

                                          Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mid 50s in all honesty.

                                          Don't take the promotion if you aren't happy with the salary they plan to offer you.

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                                            Jimmy9008 @dafyre
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                                            @dafyre said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                            @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                            @jimmy9008 said in Random Thread - Anything Goes:

                                            Folks, is 10% fair for a promotion in London from Systems Administrator, to manager of the customer helpdesk (not IT helpdesk but customer helpdesk, 2 staff, customer facing), and training manager (not internal but customer training, 2 staff again, and customer facing)?

                                            In this case its going from 45k to 50k. From what I can see, a generic manager level job in London i in the 50k range. To go from doing what I do to management of those two teams, is that raise fair for London?

                                            I mean, I've seen service desk managers get 5k bonus for hitting their targets... 5k seems low for taking on the actual jobs entirely x2.

                                            That sounds incredibly low

                                            Thats what I thought. What would you think is fair? I was expecting mid 50s in all honesty.

                                            Don't take the promotion if you aren't happy with the salary they plan to offer you.

                                            Wont it look bad to refuse? 'Not a team player' type of thinking?

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