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    wtf i cant even that is not how that works
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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @bigbear
      last edited by

      @bigbear said in I can't even:

      Who's Laura?

      No idea, why do you mention her?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        This is worth starting the day with... https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2084258-freepbx

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          What the heck is this thread about?

          https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2084444-nas-security-for-cloud-access

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            It's the day for the crazies to come out: https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2084446-vbs-to-html

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @EddieJennings
              last edited by

              @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

              17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

              She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @RojoLoco
                last edited by

                @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

                She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

                This goes to another recent thread about the home lab vs 'work experience' just because you "worked" in IT for 17 years doesn't mean you know shit about it.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @dashrender said in I can't even:

                  @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                  @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                  17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

                  She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

                  This goes to another recent thread about the home lab vs 'work experience' just because you "worked" in IT for 17 years doesn't mean you know shit about it.

                  Great catch. One day in a home lab might easly have provided more useful knowledge and experience than seventeen years working in a company doing this stuff.

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                  • NerdyDadN
                    NerdyDad @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @dashrender said in I can't even:

                    @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                    @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                    17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

                    She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

                    This goes to another recent thread about the home lab vs 'work experience' just because you "worked" in IT for 17 years doesn't mean you know shit about it.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by Obsolesce

                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                      What the heck is this thread about?

                      https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2084444-nas-security-for-cloud-access

                      I took a quick look and

                      http://reactiongifs.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/gag-jim-carrey-liar-liar.gif

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        I can't even. . .

                        "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                        Um... how come you'd have someone manually change the settings to something obviously broken?

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                        • bigbearB
                          bigbear @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                          I can't even. . .

                          "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                          Um... how?

                          Because...

                          Everything is a VPN = Unencrypted PAP is a VPN = Is Encrypted

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @bigbear
                            last edited by

                            @bigbear said in I can't even:

                            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                            I can't even. . .

                            "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                            Um... how?

                            Because...

                            Everything is a VPN = Unencrypted PAP is a VPN = Is Encrypted

                            But why force changing a setting to a configuration that is clearly broken. When it works just fine using the optional flag.

                            It's wrong, no? Why set the encryption type to "Required" when encryption for PAP isn't an option. Even if the VPN is encrypted using IPSec.

                            That one setting is what has me wondering what the hell is going on there.

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                            • bigbearB
                              bigbear @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                              @bigbear said in I can't even:

                              @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                              I can't even. . .

                              "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                              Um... how?

                              Because...

                              Everything is a VPN = Unencrypted PAP is a VPN = Is Encrypted

                              But why force changing a setting to a configuration that is clearly broken. When it works just fine using the optional flag.

                              It's wrong, no? Why set the encryption type to "Required" when encryption for PAP isn't an option. Even if the VPN is encrypted using IPSec.

                              That one setting is what has me wondering what the hell is going on there.

                              I think they are just affirming that, due to the pre-shared key, it is okay to use PAP and not to be worried that you are losing security.

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                              • R3dPand4R
                                R3dPand4 @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                Just confirmed that she has backups. Sadly, they are Backup Exec.

                                See you in 94 hours when that restore completes with degraded data.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @bigbear
                                  last edited by

                                  @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                  @bigbear said in I can't even:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                  I can't even. . .

                                  "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                                  Um... how?

                                  Because...

                                  Everything is a VPN = Unencrypted PAP is a VPN = Is Encrypted

                                  But why force changing a setting to a configuration that is clearly broken. When it works just fine using the optional flag.

                                  It's wrong, no? Why set the encryption type to "Required" when encryption for PAP isn't an option. Even if the VPN is encrypted using IPSec.

                                  That one setting is what has me wondering what the hell is going on there.

                                  I think they are just affirming that, due to the pre-shared key, it is okay to use PAP and not to be worried that you are losing security.

                                  The bigger issue is, setting the flag can't be done with powershell, it has to be set manually.

                                  Which in my mind would actually break things. Is there harm in leaving the encryption set to "Optional" when that is actually the only reasonable approach.

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                                  • R3dPand4R
                                    R3dPand4 @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                    @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                    @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                                    @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                    17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

                                    She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

                                    This goes to another recent thread about the home lab vs 'work experience' just because you "worked" in IT for 17 years doesn't mean you know shit about it.

                                    Great catch. One day in a home lab might easly have provided more useful knowledge and experience than seventeen years working in a company doing this stuff.

                                    Also goes to show that just having a cert doesn't mean anything, it's what you learned along the way. CISSP, and an MCSE? Come on....

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
                                      last edited by

                                      @r3dpand4 said in I can't even:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                      Just confirmed that she has backups. Sadly, they are Backup Exec.

                                      See you in 94 hours when that restore completes with degraded data.

                                      I think that they are talking about a month before even knowing what is happening.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @R3dPand4
                                        last edited by

                                        @r3dpand4 said in I can't even:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in I can't even:

                                        @dashrender said in I can't even:

                                        @rojoloco said in I can't even:

                                        @eddiejennings said in I can't even:

                                        17 years in IT? https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/2083921-help-errror-e1810-hdd-1-hdd2-hdd3-fault-on-poweredge-2900-production-server?page=1#entry-7357313

                                        She even says in the post - "I have no idea what I'm doing". Not something to post publicly if you claim to have 17 years in IT.

                                        This goes to another recent thread about the home lab vs 'work experience' just because you "worked" in IT for 17 years doesn't mean you know shit about it.

                                        Great catch. One day in a home lab might easly have provided more useful knowledge and experience than seventeen years working in a company doing this stuff.

                                        Also goes to show that just having a cert doesn't mean anything, it's what you learned along the way. CISSP, and an MCSE? Come on....

                                        She has a CISSP?

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                          I can't even. . .

                                          "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                                          Um... how come you'd have someone manually change the settings to something obviously broken?

                                          Because it is not broken. It is simply unencrypted. But, it is being sent over an already encrypted channel. So the authentication is never in the clear.

                                          This is precisely how you have to setup L2TP in Windows talking to an Ubiquiti router also.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @JaredBusch
                                            last edited by

                                            @jaredbusch said in I can't even:

                                            @dustinb3403 said in I can't even:

                                            I can't even. . .

                                            "Despite the name "Unencrypted PAP", the client's password is sent encrypted over an IPsec tunnel between the client device and the MX. The password is fully secure and never sent in clear text over either the WAN or the LAN."

                                            Um... how come you'd have someone manually change the settings to something obviously broken?

                                            Because it is not broken. It is simply unencrypted. But, it is being sent over an already encrypted channel. So the authentication is never in the clear.

                                            This is precisely how you have to setup L2TP in Windows talking to an Ubiquiti router also.

                                            So is it adding something to the connection?

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