Kinda Wish I Was in Austin...
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@ajstringham both are companies that I would seriously consider. Amazon has reached out to me and we have had conversations but have never worked out something that works for both of us. Good company and I would totally consider it.
Microsoft would be a dream job for me. Not that it is my top pick ever and people will boggle that me, the open source guy, would love to go there but MS is a great company with a great culture and I really respect the bulk of what they do and how they act and even moreso now in the post-Balmer era. I don't know that I would want to stay there for the rest of my career or anything like that, but I would love to have a few years, at least, of the Microsoft experience. I have never reached out to them, though. I would likely want to be in Redmond. But if they reached out to me, I would definitely answer.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham both are companies that I would seriously consider. Amazon has reached out to me and we have had conversations but have never worked out something that works for both of us. Good company and I would totally consider it.
Microsoft would be a dream job for me. Not that it is my top pick ever and people will boggle that me, the open source guy, would love to go there but MS is a great company with a great culture and I really respect the bulk of what they do and how they act and even moreso now in the post-Balmer era. I don't know that I would want to stay there for the rest of my career or anything like that, but I would love to have a few years, at least, of the Microsoft experience. I have never reached out to them, though. I would likely want to be in Redmond. But if they reached out to me, I would definitely answer.
I think my dream job has to be something like Google. Based on what I've heard about their work culture and everything, it sounds like it'd be an amazing place to work!
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@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham both are companies that I would seriously consider. Amazon has reached out to me and we have had conversations but have never worked out something that works for both of us. Good company and I would totally consider it.
Microsoft would be a dream job for me. Not that it is my top pick ever and people will boggle that me, the open source guy, would love to go there but MS is a great company with a great culture and I really respect the bulk of what they do and how they act and even moreso now in the post-Balmer era. I don't know that I would want to stay there for the rest of my career or anything like that, but I would love to have a few years, at least, of the Microsoft experience. I have never reached out to them, though. I would likely want to be in Redmond. But if they reached out to me, I would definitely answer.
I think my dream job has to be something like Google. Based on what I've heard about their work culture and everything, it sounds like it'd be an amazing place to work!
I won't even interview with them. Same reason. Their culture is something I'm not okay with. I like them as a company in general, but their culture doesn't sit well with me and I will turn down any interview with them.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham both are companies that I would seriously consider. Amazon has reached out to me and we have had conversations but have never worked out something that works for both of us. Good company and I would totally consider it.
Microsoft would be a dream job for me. Not that it is my top pick ever and people will boggle that me, the open source guy, would love to go there but MS is a great company with a great culture and I really respect the bulk of what they do and how they act and even moreso now in the post-Balmer era. I don't know that I would want to stay there for the rest of my career or anything like that, but I would love to have a few years, at least, of the Microsoft experience. I have never reached out to them, though. I would likely want to be in Redmond. But if they reached out to me, I would definitely answer.
I think my dream job has to be something like Google. Based on what I've heard about their work culture and everything, it sounds like it'd be an amazing place to work!
I won't even interview with them. Same reason. Their culture is something I'm not okay with. I like them as a company in general, but their culture doesn't sit well with me and I will turn down any interview with them.
What about it don't you like? I've heard it's a very laid back culture but still productive.
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@ajstringham said:
I think my dream job has to be something like Google. Based on what I've heard about their work culture and everything, it sounds like it'd be an amazing place to work!
Ummm.... I did interview with them in 2005. Not an experience I care to repeat.
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@Katie said:
@ajstringham said:
I think my dream job has to be something like Google. Based on what I've heard about their work culture and everything, it sounds like it'd be an amazing place to work!
Ummm.... I did interview with them in 2005. Not an experience I care to repeat.
Details?
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@ajstringham said:
@Katie said:
@ajstringham said:
I think my dream job has to be something like Google. Based on what I've heard about their work culture and everything, it sounds like it'd be an amazing place to work!
Ummm.... I did interview with them in 2005. Not an experience I care to repeat.
Details?
She can't give any, you have to sign that you will never divulge anything about Google when you interview there.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@ajstringham said:
@Katie said:
@ajstringham said:
I think my dream job has to be something like Google. Based on what I've heard about their work culture and everything, it sounds like it'd be an amazing place to work!
Ummm.... I did interview with them in 2005. Not an experience I care to repeat.
Details?
She can't give any, you have to sign that you will never divulge anything about Google when you interview there.
Fo cereal?
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@scottalanmiller said:
She can't give any, you have to sign that you will never divulge anything about Google when you interview there.
Sorry, AJ
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@ajstringham and that is why I will have nothing to do with them. That secrecy screams that it is a horrible place to work because no employee is ever allowed to give an honest opinion of the place. Everything that you have heard is filtered by Google's PR team. I believe nothing about them and will never sign such an agreement so will never allow myself to be interviewed there. If they lifted that requirement, that would be different. Again, I don't dislike them as a company, but that cultural hiding is enough that they fail their end of the interview process with me before even talking in person. It's a black and white fail point.
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I have written about hiring practices that when you interview with a company you have only one true, no way to fake it look at the company and that is the hiring process itself. Does that process work well? Does it operate smoothly? Does it encourage the right kind of people to work there?
Google fails with me based on their interview process. Just like I don't put my college degrees on my resume so that companies that require those don't contact me and save us both the trouble of me turning them down later, I don't interview with anyone that hides who they are. That means that they are embarrassed. If they were a good place to work, they would want people to know to attract the best and the brightest. You only have to hide when things are bad (or illegal.) I doubt that they are illegal, but I have no doubt that they are bad. I'm sure that there are good parts, but we will never know for certain. All we know is that something is horrible wrong, so wrong that they will turn down a massive pool of top talent over needing to keep not only the interview process but everything about the company culture a secret.
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@ajstringham soooooooooo, when are you moving?
There been a lot of discussion since I last checked and I CBS reading all of it.
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@NetworkNerd said:
I think it's worth your time to contact them and see if they might do the interview via Skype.
I second that motion..
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@Joyfano said:
@NetworkNerd said:
I think it's worth your time to contact them and see if they might do the interview via Skype.
I second that motion..
Motion carried. Meeting adjourned.
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@nadnerB said:
@ajstringham soooooooooo, when are you moving?
There been a lot of discussion since I last checked and I CBS reading all of it.
What is CBS reading?
And to answer your question, I don't know. I'm waiting to hear back from SW.
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This was definitely thread of the day. Lol
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@ajstringham said:
@nadnerB said:
@ajstringham soooooooooo, when are you moving?
There been a lot of discussion since I last checked and I CBS reading all of it.
What is CBS reading?
And to answer your question, I don't know. I'm waiting to hear back from SW.
Can't Be Stuffed
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Heard back from my contact at SW today. They are going to figure out what the next steps are.
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@ajstringham said:
Heard back from my contact at SW today. They are going to figure out what the next steps are.
Are those good steps or bad steps?
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@coliver said:
Are those good steps or bad steps?
I would think any step that's not "I'm sorry but you're not the candidate for us" would be a good one.
