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      A Former User @thanksajdotcom
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      @ajstringham said:

      Most companies have a return policy. How long ago were they purchased? Paying a restocking fee and buying the right thing new is probably easier and definitely better than trying to get the wrong thing working the right way.

      6 Months is not going to be covering anything but defects.

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        thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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        @thecreativeone91 said:

        @ajstringham said:

        Most companies have a return policy. How long ago were they purchased? Paying a restocking fee and buying the right thing new is probably easier and definitely better than trying to get the wrong thing working the right way.

        6 Months is not going to be covering anything but defects.

        I meant an after-purchase return policy. It ranges from 14-90 days, depending on the company and the product.

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          A Former User @thanksajdotcom
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          @ajstringham Yes, but he has had them for 6 months.

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            thanksajdotcom @A Former User
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            @thecreativeone91 said:

            @ajstringham Yes, but he has had them for 6 months.

            Ah, missed that fact somehow.

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              Dominica
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              Sucks for them, but hopefully this will wake them up to the fact that they need to consult someone before just purchasing whatever looks good to them, willy nilly. Not that this stops a lot our clients from doing stupid stuff like buying laptops at Best Buy, Staples, etc, without realizing what their requirements actually are.

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                thanksajdotcom @Dominica
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                @Dominica said:

                Sucks for them, but hopefully this will wake them up to the fact that they need to consult someone before just purchasing whatever looks good to them, willy nilly. Not that this stops a lot our clients from doing stupid stuff like buying laptops at Best Buy, Staples, etc, without realizing what their requirements actually are.

                It amazes me, now that I've seen what business-grade products are like, how badly made most consumer crap is...laptops being the worst.

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                  scottalanmiller @Dominica
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                  @Dominica said:

                  Sucks for them, but hopefully this will wake them up to the fact that they need to consult someone before just purchasing whatever looks good to them, willy nilly. Not that this stops a lot our clients from doing stupid stuff like buying laptops at Best Buy, Staples, etc, without realizing what their requirements actually are.

                  We say on a day when we are dealing with just that 😉

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                    Dominica @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller Just another day in the SMB...

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                      thanksajdotcom @Dominica
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                      @Dominica said:

                      @scottalanmiller Just another day in the SMB...

                      Yup, pretty much.

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                        technobabble @Dominica
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                        @Dominica said:

                        Sucks for them, but hopefully this will wake them up to the fact that they need to consult someone before just purchasing whatever looks good to them, willy nilly. Not that this stops a lot our clients from doing stupid stuff like buying laptops at Best Buy, Staples, etc, without realizing what their requirements actually are.

                        Exactly! Even harder for small businesses (2-4 users) to understand why they should consider business class computers.

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                          Dominica @technobabble
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                          @technobabble Oh, believe me, I know! In the early days of NTG we had a few really small clients, who just didn't get it.

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                            technobabble @Dominica
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                            @Dominica said:

                            @technobabble Oh, believe me, I know! In the early days of NTG we had a few really small clients, who just didn't get it.

                            This is the niche that I have been working IT in for 10 years.

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                              A Former User
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                              @technobabble said:

                              CAD/CAM

                              I would get an HP Z series for something like that.
                              http://www8.hp.com/us/en/campaigns/workstations/overview.html
                              OR
                              http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/precision-desktops

                              Which CAD program is it btw?

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                                JaredBusch @technobabble
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                                @technobabble doe these all in one boxes have display port? if so, those can be split quite effectively.

                                The modern on board video cards are not always horrible.

                                I am assuming you already tried it and it failed though.

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                                  A Former User @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @technobabble doe these all in one boxes have display port? if so, those can be split quite effectively.

                                  The modern on board video cards are not always horrible.

                                  I am assuming you already tried it and it failed though.

                                  It's not about more connections. Its because they wanted to run CAD programs on integrated graphics which isn't going to work well. if at all.

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                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    That they are integrated is really not an issue. Integrated can often outperform many discreet cards.

                                    Really depends on the integrated and the card.

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                                      technobabble @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @technobabble doe these all in one boxes have display port? if so, those can be split quite effectively.

                                      The modern on board video cards are not always horrible.

                                      I am assuming you already tried it and it failed though.

                                      I believe it only has HDMI out but the Dell AIO locks up every 3 minutes.

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                                        technobabble @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        That they are integrated is really not an issue. Integrated can often outperform many discreet cards.

                                        Really depends on the integrated and the card.

                                        I am sure that is the case most times. However the programs spec sheet says not to use integrated cards, especially the Intel 4000 and AMD APUs, which is why I started the thread.

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                                          scottalanmiller @technobabble
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                                          @technobabble said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          That they are integrated is really not an issue. Integrated can often outperform many discreet cards.

                                          Really depends on the integrated and the card.

                                          I am sure that is the case most times. However the programs spec sheet says not to use integrated cards, especially the Intel 4000 and AMD APUs, which is why I started the thread.

                                          That's just one of those things that people state without technical reason. It's not for IT people to read. It's like how ERP programs say you can't virtualize and they need RAID 5 when, of course, it should always be virtualized and never have RAID 5. It is purely about performance and what they state is irrelevant. Sure, the best outcome is not with integrated cards, but poor planning of discrete cards will be even worse.

                                          Performance is all that matters. Measure that before spending big.

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                                            technobabble @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            @technobabble said:

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            That they are integrated is really not an issue. Integrated can often outperform many discreet cards.

                                            Really depends on the integrated and the card.

                                            I am sure that is the case most times. However the programs spec sheet says not to use integrated cards, especially the Intel 4000 and AMD APUs, which is why I started the thread.

                                            That's just one of those things that people state without technical reason. It's not for IT people to read. It's like how ERP programs say you can't virtualize and they need RAID 5 when, of course, it should always be virtualized and never have RAID 5. It is purely about performance and what they state is irrelevant. Sure, the best outcome is not with integrated cards, but poor planning of discrete cards will be even worse.

                                            Performance is all that matters. Measure that before spending big.

                                            Oh, I get that. And funny you should mention visualization. They specifically state that it will cause the program to run poorly.

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