Spouses, Furniture and Generic Cereal
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@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@scottalanmiller said in I am going to start an ISP:
Right, what is bad for the consumer is good for the vendor. And loads and loads of consumers actually like being taken advantage of. Don't disappoint them.
Absolutely. Some consumers get mad when you dont rip them off since they have become so used to get shafted.
There are a lot of maxims at play, but you'd have to agree that most customers equate price with value.
To that end, lets say he inherited a WISP network and deals were in place to make the internet free and power free. So perhaps he can offer internet for $5/month and still be profitable.
He would have an easier time selling it at $50 than $5 per month. Even I would just assume it wasnt going to be reliable.
To the other extreme of being taken advantage of I agree. That may not realize it, and sometimes we see it on our end.
Customers are often terrible buyers, and it can be to your advantage in internet/voice and much to your dismay if its IT services.
I have been with my girl for about 5 years and I still struggle getting the generic brand of anything. I have shown her multiple times that they come from the same factory in china, but to her if it isn't the name brand it isn't as good. She determines the name brand by looking at which price is higher.
She will buy stuff that isn't name brand now, but she would rather not do it. Not because of quality or anything, but she has the mental block that if it is less expensive, it is worse.
They make Kellog's Cereal not far from me, and at the same plant the make and even box the Krogers and other generics brands... the truck then takes them directly to Aldies, Krogers, Meijers etc.
I took my kids down to show them and there minds were blown all day. Not since their grandpa showed them his TV antenna and how he gets free HD TV out of thin air have their minds been this blown.
That is where she struggles the most. She will buy cereal that is name brand, but not the generic stuff. When it tastes the freaking same!! In fact, sometimes I take the bag out and put it in the name brand box. Nobody ever knows
Tricky!
Except lucky charms, damn those people and their specific shaped marshmallows!
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@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
Big Picture... you mean you got her to play Steam games with you. . . well played!
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
Big Picture... you mean you got her to play Steam games with you. . . well played!
Well this is how you know that the war is over and that you have won. This is the end game right?
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@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
Big Picture... you mean you got her to play Steam games with you. . . well played!
Well this is how you know that the war is over and that you have won. This is the end game right?
A successful marriage is completed when one member of the union is deceased.
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@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
You sir are impressive. These are battles I don't think I'll ever win. I fight the good fight but have yet to win even one.
It all started with a couch actually. Of course she wanted Kane's or some other big name expensive furniture retailer, and when I told her it wasn't in my budget and I'll be damned if I ever in my life finance a couch. She then started looking at junky retailers like ikea, and some other local junky overpriced furniture places. A few days later I came home with a couch from the thrift store that I bought for $250 that was very similar to what we were looking at for $2500.
That was the biggest win I've had. I have nothing against $2500 couches, but we have two kids under 3 years old so anything we get will be trashed anyway.
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
Big Picture... you mean you got her to play Steam games with you. . . well played!
Not steam, but we like to play NES, SNES, and we recently added N64
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@irj so you brought the plague into your home on that couch, and you were the only survivor...
One way to go with that. .
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@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
You sir are impressive. These are battles I don't think I'll ever win. I fight the good fight but have yet to win even one.
It all started with a couch actually. Of course she wanted Kane's or some other big name expensive furniture retailer, and when I told her it wasn't in my budget and I'll be damned if I ever in my life finance a couch. She then started looking at junky retailers like ikea, and some other local junky overpriced furniture places. A few days later I came home with a couch from the thrift store that I bought for $250 that was very similar to what we were looking at for $2500.
That was the biggest win I've had. I have nothing against $2500 couches, but we have two kids under 3 years old so anything we get will be trashed anyway.
Indeed. Well played. Sadly my last couch I paid about a grand for, that being said it's about a 2 grand couch. But still not a victory like a $250 couch.
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@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
Big Picture... you mean you got her to play Steam games with you. . . well played!
Well this is how you know that the war is over and that you have won. This is the end game right?
A successful marriage is completed when one member of the union is deceased.
LOL that's one way to look at it.
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@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
You sir are impressive. These are battles I don't think I'll ever win. I fight the good fight but have yet to win even one.
It all started with a couch actually. Of course she wanted Kane's or some other big name expensive furniture retailer, and when I told her it wasn't in my budget and I'll be damned if I ever in my life finance a couch. She then started looking at junky retailers like ikea, and some other local junky overpriced furniture places. A few days later I came home with a couch from the thrift store that I bought for $250 that was very similar to what we were looking at for $2500.
That was the biggest win I've had. I have nothing against $2500 couches, but we have two kids under 3 years old so anything we get will be trashed anyway.
Indeed. Well played. Sadly my last couch I paid about a grand for, that being said it's about a 2 grand couch. But still not a victory like a $250 couch.
After that we picked out a love seat and chair. We ended up getting everything for about $400. Then we bought a new house and she didnt want to take any of the furniture because it had to be a different color.
Then she went to big lots and spent $800 for a couch and $400 for a chair. They are garbage. We havent even had them a year and they are shit. the chair is falling apart and couch is losing its cushioniness everywhere.
So I guess I lost...
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@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
You sir are impressive. These are battles I don't think I'll ever win. I fight the good fight but have yet to win even one.
It all started with a couch actually. Of course she wanted Kane's or some other big name expensive furniture retailer, and when I told her it wasn't in my budget and I'll be damned if I ever in my life finance a couch. She then started looking at junky retailers like ikea, and some other local junky overpriced furniture places. A few days later I came home with a couch from the thrift store that I bought for $250 that was very similar to what we were looking at for $2500.
That was the biggest win I've had. I have nothing against $2500 couches, but we have two kids under 3 years old so anything we get will be trashed anyway.
Indeed. Well played. Sadly my last couch I paid about a grand for, that being said it's about a 2 grand couch. But still not a victory like a $250 couch.
After that we picked out a love seat and chair. We ended up getting everything for about $400. Then we bought a new house and she didnt want to take any of the furniture because it had to be a different color.
Then she went to big lots and spent $800 for a couch and $400 for a chair. They are garbage. We havent even had them a year and they are shit. the chair is falling apart and couch is losing its cushioniness everywhere.
So I guess I lost...
We have a furniture store about 2 hours from us. It's a wholesale store that has been moving into the retail space. They hadn't, when we were there, figured out retail pricing yet. So we were able to buy two couches and a love seat for ~$1500. The primary couch we use has the same problem that your's does, we know how to fix it... just haven't yet.
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@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
You sir are impressive. These are battles I don't think I'll ever win. I fight the good fight but have yet to win even one.
It all started with a couch actually. Of course she wanted Kane's or some other big name expensive furniture retailer, and when I told her it wasn't in my budget and I'll be damned if I ever in my life finance a couch. She then started looking at junky retailers like ikea, and some other local junky overpriced furniture places. A few days later I came home with a couch from the thrift store that I bought for $250 that was very similar to what we were looking at for $2500.
That was the biggest win I've had. I have nothing against $2500 couches, but we have two kids under 3 years old so anything we get will be trashed anyway.
IKEA furniture is actually fairly decent. The real hangup most people have with it comes down to it is not "heirloom" or I can't keep it for 40 years and pass it down to my kids.
Well fuck that shit, I don't ant my parents' 1970's furniture. I don't care if it is perfect condition solid oak.
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@quixoticjeremy said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@irj Try and change her mindset that just because that one is more, is it that much better quality to pay more for it.
I've been winning battles throughout our relationship, but I have yet to win the war. I have gotten her shopping at thrift shops and second hand stores which I know she would have never done before we met.
I have gotten her to see the big picture and she will now buy something for $200 instead of $300, but not $2 instead of $3. Which actually add up to be alot more money in the long run.
You sir are impressive. These are battles I don't think I'll ever win. I fight the good fight but have yet to win even one.
It all started with a couch actually. Of course she wanted Kane's or some other big name expensive furniture retailer, and when I told her it wasn't in my budget and I'll be damned if I ever in my life finance a couch. She then started looking at junky retailers like ikea, and some other local junky overpriced furniture places. A few days later I came home with a couch from the thrift store that I bought for $250 that was very similar to what we were looking at for $2500.
That was the biggest win I've had. I have nothing against $2500 couches, but we have two kids under 3 years old so anything we get will be trashed anyway.
IKEA furniture is actually fairly decent. The real hangup most people have with it comes down to it is not "heirloom" or I can't keep it for 40 years and pass it down to my kids.
Well fuck that shit, I don't ant my parents' 1970's furniture. I don't care if it is perfect condition solid oak.
Couldn't agree more.
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My wife is used to me seeing marketing and branding as negatives and knows that I react pretty negatively to paying for brands. I've trained her well. She'll go for generic every time.
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@scottalanmiller said in Spouses, Furniture and Generic Cereal:
My wife is used to me seeing marketing and branding as negatives and knows that I react pretty negatively to paying for brands. I've trained her well. She'll go for generic every time.
/me rebrands himself as the Generic SAM.
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@irj I will setup a store and offer the generic brands at a high cost than the name brand, not a lot higher but higher. You can then order from my store and I will give you back some of the money. It will still be cheaper than the name brand that way for you. It is a win win.
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I read some article about gender roles and some study suggested women are more likely to test their male counterpart. Almost like a cave man DNA leftover.
So young men are encouraged to be financially irresponsible to please their significant other. The same as women are expected to be fawn over the man's deep pockets and generosity.
In reality if a man just does what a man does it works out. Save that money, don't give in, don't go out of your way too much. The woman feels secure because you are not easily swayed and also can speak her mind. Compromises are made. Two people become more alike over time.
Also I have read women are more about NOW. Men like to plan. If you are shopping for a house you are saving to buy next year the woman has no interest whereas the man relishes the planning process.
Disclaimer: This was written with no regard to other marriage configurations or mixed gender roles.
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@bigbear said in Spouses, Furniture and Generic Cereal:
Also I have read women are more about NOW. Men like to plan. If you are shopping for a house you are saving to buy next year the woman has no interest whereas the man relishes the planning process.
That's not quite it. It's delayed gratification and investing. Women look for payouts today. Men look for payouts tomorrow. But one does not plan more or less than the other. Planning versus perceiving is a different trait.
For example, I'm not a planner, but I am an investor. I do everything for payouts "someday" but make no plans as to when and where.
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@scottalanmiller said in Spouses, Furniture and Generic Cereal:
That's not quite it. It's delayed gratification and investing. Women look for payouts today. Men look for payouts tomorrow.
I was taught women are more mature, yet I would say this is a maturity issue. But, I have had a lot of bourbon in me at this fine hour...
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@bigbear said in Spouses, Furniture and Generic Cereal:
@scottalanmiller said in Spouses, Furniture and Generic Cereal:
That's not quite it. It's delayed gratification and investing. Women look for payouts today. Men look for payouts tomorrow.
I was taught women are more mature, yet I would say this is a maturity issue. But, I have had a lot of bourbon in me at this fine hour...
I was taught that women reached their maturity level faster.
