Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?
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@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
I would likely run on Fedora, of course. Fedora -> CentOS -> Ubuntu, in this case. Ubuntu is always my enterprise Linux of last resort. Only after all RH and Suse options are exhausted. Within the RH family, I always choose Fedora over CentOS.
How are you doing your central logging with Fedora?
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@stacksofplates said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
I like neither but ERPNext seems more flexible. It's been a couple years but the ERPNext install script never worked on CentOS for me. Never tried Odoo other than the hosted so I can't answer which is better for it.
Is ERPNext designed mainly for non-Red hat variant ?
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@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
We ran ERPNext for a while for @Minion-Queen to test out. It was okay, but we ended up not using it. Odoo looked interesting but their website was down for so long, we had thought that they had gone out of business so we did not test them at the time.
Okay, I am seeing good reviews about ERPNext at different places.
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@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
I would likely run on Fedora, of course. Fedora -> CentOS -> Ubuntu, in this case. Ubuntu is always my enterprise Linux of last resort. Only after all RH and Suse options are exhausted. Within the RH family, I always choose Fedora over CentOS.
Fedora ? I don't know exactly but, I always had impression that Fedora is for Desktop kind and CentOS/Redhat/Ubuntu/OpenSuse etc for Server kind of stuff, isn't it ?
I feel like some applications or services are designed mainly for one for variants ? (Redhat or Debian) ? as I seen, Odoo was smooth to setup on Ubuntu and can find so many articles for that, and Snipe-IT on CentOS etc. Just wonder why only specific variant is more suitable for most of applications ?
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I will prefer to choose Ubuntu from Debian Variant and CentOS from Redhat variant, in general.
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@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
Fedora ? I don't know exactly but, I always had impression that Fedora is for Desktop kind and CentOS/Redhat/Ubuntu/OpenSuse etc for Server kind of stuff, isn't it ?
Fedora has nothing to do with desktops. Fedora is the main Red Hat product. CentOS/RHEL are derived from older Fedora. CentOS is just a "frozen" Fedora. So CentOS 7 is basically just Fedora 19. So you get fewer changes and are far less up to date, which is almost always a negative.
In the old days, LTS releases like CentOS were important. Those days, I feel, are quite over and the benefits from Fedora far outweight the benefits from CentOS.
http://www.smbitjournal.com/2017/04/rethinking-long-term-support-releases/
If you were to compare to other ecosystems, it is more like this (but not exactly, as Ubuntu LTS doesn't get the same support as Ubuntu Current, for example.)
Family LTS Release Rapid Release Red Hat RHEL & CentOS Fedora Canonical Ubuntu LTS Ubuntu Current Suse openSuse Leap openSuse Tumbleweed In all three cases, if you were to use any of those, I would prefer Fedora over RHEL, Ubuntu Current over Ubuntu LTS and Tumbleweed over Leap.
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@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
I feel like some applications or services are designed mainly for one for variants ? (Redhat or Debian) ? as I seen, Odoo was smooth to setup on Ubuntu and can find so many articles for that, and Snipe-IT on CentOS etc. Just wonder why only specific variant is more suitable for most of applications ?
This is very true and is the sole reason that I vary from using Fedora on every server. It's not that one is more suitable, if suitability were the only criteria, I feel that Fedora and Tumbleweed would be the only ones out there. It's that developers choose to build for and test on one OS then port to others, the one that they build and test on works the best for obvious reasons.
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@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
Fedora ? I don't know exactly but, I always had impression that Fedora is for Desktop kind and CentOS/Redhat/Ubuntu/OpenSuse etc for Server kind of stuff, isn't it ?
I think you are thinking of Korora, the desktop "variant" based on Fedora. You might also have this impression because desktops have almost never favoured LTS releases, whereas servers used to, so people associated anything with a rapid release schedule with desktop users. But Fedora has always been the mainline Red Hat product and RHEL has always been based on a "frozen" version of Fedora.
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@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
I feel like some applications or services are designed mainly for one for variants ? (Redhat or Debian) ? as I seen, Odoo was smooth to setup on Ubuntu and can find so many articles for that, and Snipe-IT on CentOS etc. Just wonder why only specific variant is more suitable for most of applications ?
This is very true and is the sole reason that I vary from using Fedora on every server. It's not that one is more suitable, if suitability were the only criteria, I feel that Fedora and Tumbleweed would be the only ones out there. It's that developers choose to build for and test on one OS then port to others, the one that they build and test on works the best for obvious reasons.
Okay, do the developers/owners ever mention on their website that on which build they built the application ? ( to choose that specific variant/build immediately)
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@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
Fedora ? I don't know exactly but, I always had impression that Fedora is for Desktop kind and CentOS/Redhat/Ubuntu/OpenSuse etc for Server kind of stuff, isn't it ?
I think you are thinking of Korora, the desktop "variant" based on Fedora. You might also have this impression because desktops have almost never favoured LTS releases, whereas servers used to, so people associated anything with a rapid release schedule with desktop users. But Fedora has always been the mainline Red Hat product and RHEL has always been based on a "frozen" version of Fedora.
I am not looking at Fedora from long, but only Live Version to recover something. No idea which version I used, but my impression was not just about Desktop/Server version but overall impression on Fedora. Some other senior guy told me long ago that "Fedora is a testing rat" of Redhat, maybe from then I have this impression.
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@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
I feel like some applications or services are designed mainly for one for variants ? (Redhat or Debian) ? as I seen, Odoo was smooth to setup on Ubuntu and can find so many articles for that, and Snipe-IT on CentOS etc. Just wonder why only specific variant is more suitable for most of applications ?
This is very true and is the sole reason that I vary from using Fedora on every server. It's not that one is more suitable, if suitability were the only criteria, I feel that Fedora and Tumbleweed would be the only ones out there. It's that developers choose to build for and test on one OS then port to others, the one that they build and test on works the best for obvious reasons.
Okay, do the developers/owners ever mention on their website that on which build they built the application ? ( to choose that specific variant/build immediately)
Typically they either say directly or it is very clear based on their documentation.
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@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
Fedora ? I don't know exactly but, I always had impression that Fedora is for Desktop kind and CentOS/Redhat/Ubuntu/OpenSuse etc for Server kind of stuff, isn't it ?
I think you are thinking of Korora, the desktop "variant" based on Fedora. You might also have this impression because desktops have almost never favoured LTS releases, whereas servers used to, so people associated anything with a rapid release schedule with desktop users. But Fedora has always been the mainline Red Hat product and RHEL has always been based on a "frozen" version of Fedora.
I am not looking at Fedora from long, but only Live Version to recover something. No idea which version I used, but my impression was not just about Desktop/Server version but overall impression on Fedora. Some other senior guy told me long ago that "Fedora is a testing rat" of Redhat, maybe from then I have this impression.
Fedora can be seen as the test of RHEL in some ways. Because it gets the changes first. But in another perspective, RHEL is just old Fedora that hasn't been updated. In the old days, we used to feel (and there was good reason for it) that updating our operating system regularly was a bad thing. That's changed for a lot of reasons. So the value to RHEL has shifted, a lot. Fedora gets things like PHP 7 as much as six years ahead of CentOS. It gets newer databases, products, updates, features, etc. You get years of new developments that CentOS / RHEL lack. Even a simple LAMP server is dramatically more powerful, stable, and fast on Fedora than on CentOS. If that's what you call testing....
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@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
I am not looking at Fedora from long, but only Live Version to recover something.
You can use RHEL in the same way, but Fedora has more tools and more drivers, so Fedora is better for this. But those are reasons that Fedora is good, not bad. And no relationship to being a desktop.
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@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
@openit said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
Fedora ? I don't know exactly but, I always had impression that Fedora is for Desktop kind and CentOS/Redhat/Ubuntu/OpenSuse etc for Server kind of stuff, isn't it ?
I think you are thinking of Korora, the desktop "variant" based on Fedora. You might also have this impression because desktops have almost never favoured LTS releases, whereas servers used to, so people associated anything with a rapid release schedule with desktop users. But Fedora has always been the mainline Red Hat product and RHEL has always been based on a "frozen" version of Fedora.
I am not looking at Fedora from long, but only Live Version to recover something. No idea which version I used, but my impression was not just about Desktop/Server version but overall impression on Fedora. Some other senior guy told me long ago that "Fedora is a testing rat" of Redhat, maybe from then I have this impression.
Fedora can be seen as the test of RHEL in some ways. Because it gets the changes first. But in another perspective, RHEL is just old Fedora that hasn't been updated. In the old days, we used to feel (and there was good reason for it) that updating our operating system regularly was a bad thing. That's changed for a lot of reasons. So the value to RHEL has shifted, a lot. Fedora gets things like PHP 7 as much as six years ahead of CentOS. It gets newer databases, products, updates, features, etc. You get years of new developments that CentOS / RHEL lack. Even a simple LAMP server is dramatically more powerful, stable, and fast on Fedora than on CentOS. If that's what you call testing....
Wow, this information given me lots of clarification.
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Fedora is better for active IT departments that maintain their systems. CentOS is better for companies that deploy and never maintain their systems and just hope for the best
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@scottalanmiller said in Odoo vs ERPNext and Which linux more suitable (Ubuntu/CentOS) ?:
Fedora is better for active IT departments that maintain their systems. CentOS is better for companies that deploy and never maintain their systems and just hope for the best
I just wonder your statement here on CentOS, while I have seen you always praise CentOS than Ubuntu. Is that praise just about CentOS vs Ubuntu ?
So your whole interest on Fedora is because it have Latest things and faster development ?
