What Are You Doing Right Now
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I agree that we all (well, not Scott of course) don't ask the correct question.
When I talk about AD, I'm almost NEVER talking about AD alone, as in authentication alone. I'm almost always talking about the suite of functions/services that are on the MS platform that revolve around AD. And frankly, when I see most SMB IT personal talking about AD, so are they.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I agree that we all (well, not Scott of course) don't ask the correct question.
When I talk about AD, I'm almost NEVER talking about AD along, as in authentication alone. I'm almost always talking about the suite of functions/services that are on the MS platform that revolve around AD. And frankly, when I see most SMB IT personal talking about AD, so are they.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I agree that we all (well, not Scott of course) don't ask the correct question.
When I talk about AD, I'm almost NEVER talking about AD alone, as in authentication alone. I'm almost always talking about the suite of functions/services that are on the MS platform that revolve around AD. And frankly, when I see most SMB IT personal talking about AD, so are they.
Or, you perceive that because you project it. But if you did that in the case in question, it would make me right and everyone else wrong. Because they all recommended things that are incompatible with that ecosystem.
This is a great example where my need for truth and accuracy won, again, because the "obvious everyone knows what he meant" was wrong. Even when you describe it like you just did, it shows that that assumption didn't match how people reacted.
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It's true, MOST people use AD to mean something that isn't AD. MOST people just say gibberish, it's how people make themselves sound like they are saying something useful to casual listeners. When in reality, they didn't say something clearly enough for anyone to actually be helpful with a response. But it is enough that other "most" people can respond with something equally pointless so that the entire exchange had no value or meaning, but made it plausible that something had been accomplished to other parties passing by.
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The problem is is that this system means totally different things to all kinds of different people. One person saying that they need AD needs authentication, another needs group policy, another needs AD protocols for applications and so forth. Each listener tends to apply their own needs and common misuse to the term and acts like it's an "obvious" term meaning the thing that they think that it is when, in fact, every listener is hearing a totally different "obvious" use of the term. The real problem is the belief that there is any possible "obvious" misuse of terms like this.
Using AD like this is just like using cloud to mean hosting or the Internet. It doesn't aid in communications and just makes the speaker unable to ever learn or become an expert in that specific arena.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I agree that we all (well, not Scott of course) don't ask the correct question.
When I talk about AD, I'm almost NEVER talking about AD alone, as in authentication alone. I'm almost always talking about the suite of functions/services that are on the MS platform that revolve around AD. And frankly, when I see most SMB IT personal talking about AD, so are they.
Or, you perceive that because you project it. But if you did that in the case in question, it would make me right and everyone else wrong. Because they all recommended things that are incompatible with that ecosystem.
This is a great example where my need for truth and accuracy won, again, because the "obvious everyone knows what he meant" was wrong. Even when you describe it like you just did, it shows that that assumption didn't match how people reacted.
But it did match the OPs request.
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On way home. Can't wait to get in and sit on the sofa lol
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I agree that we all (well, not Scott of course) don't ask the correct question.
When I talk about AD, I'm almost NEVER talking about AD alone, as in authentication alone. I'm almost always talking about the suite of functions/services that are on the MS platform that revolve around AD. And frankly, when I see most SMB IT personal talking about AD, so are they.
Or, you perceive that because you project it. But if you did that in the case in question, it would make me right and everyone else wrong. Because they all recommended things that are incompatible with that ecosystem.
This is a great example where my need for truth and accuracy won, again, because the "obvious everyone knows what he meant" was wrong. Even when you describe it like you just did, it shows that that assumption didn't match how people reacted.
But it did match the OPs request.
No, it didn't. That's part of the point. He wanted things that people did not provide in their answer.
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I just told a job that because they used Cisco UCS I knew that they didn't take what they do seriously so I wasn't interested in continuing the conversation. If you are still using Cisco UCS in 2017, you are a freaking idiot. Lots of people were fooled by that crap a few years ago and tried it out, but if you've not learned better and replaced it by now... c'mon.
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@scottalanmiller That's how you can have the clients that follow your recommendations. In the end it would have been hard to have them as clients if they are not willing to change unless they told you right away.
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@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller That's how you can have the clients that follow your recommendations. In the end it would have been hard to have them as clients if they are not willing to change unless they told you right away.
Yeah, and the issue was that they wanted someone with Cisco UCS skills... which means they are seeing it as an active investment.
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@scottalanmiller Yeah, that makes sense.
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@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller Yeah, that makes sense.
The rest of the request wasn't great either. They were really into certs (which I blow away their requirements) and education (which I have but I'm not a noobie so that's offensive to mention) and whatnot. In reality, the job was just way too junior and they should not have been pursuing me.
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@scottalanmiller Good way to stand-up for yourself
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@scottalanmiller someone was attempting to steal you from @Minion-Queen ?!
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller someone was attempting to steal you from @Minion-Queen ?!
I get contacted about maybe 10-20 senior positions a day.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I just told a job that because they used Cisco UCS I knew that they didn't take what they do seriously so I wasn't interested in continuing the conversation. If you are still using Cisco UCS in 2017, you are a freaking idiot. Lots of people were fooled by that crap a few years ago and tried it out, but if you've not learned better and replaced it by now... c'mon.
Replaced it? What if it's still serving it's purpose?
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller That's how you can have the clients that follow your recommendations. In the end it would have been hard to have them as clients if they are not willing to change unless they told you right away.
Yeah, and the issue was that they wanted someone with Cisco UCS skills... which means they are seeing it as an active investment.
Ok this explains why you told them no.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I just told a job that because they used Cisco UCS I knew that they didn't take what they do seriously so I wasn't interested in continuing the conversation. If you are still using Cisco UCS in 2017, you are a freaking idiot. Lots of people were fooled by that crap a few years ago and tried it out, but if you've not learned better and replaced it by now... c'mon.
Replaced it? What if it's still serving it's purpose?
UCS is old, by this point either they had to buy it long ago and have learned their lessons and not replaced it with another or they had plenty of time to have known that it was a joke as everyone did many years ago and known not to have bought it. In either case, it's at a point where having it and investing in it is wrong.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller That's how you can have the clients that follow your recommendations. In the end it would have been hard to have them as clients if they are not willing to change unless they told you right away.
Yeah, and the issue was that they wanted someone with Cisco UCS skills... which means they are seeing it as an active investment.
Ok this explains why you told them no.
Right, it's not the OWNING it that is bad, it's that they are focusing their hiring around keeping it.
