What Are You Doing Right Now
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Part of the point of at least one of the articles was that instead of bandaiding LAN saturation with QoS, you should fix the LAN.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
All I shared was:
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11896/qos-for-voip-is-not-the-big-deal-the-vendors-want-you-to-think
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11895/why-vlans-do-not-provide-effective-qos-for-voipWhere did you share them?
With my boss by email and that was his response, by email.
Oh, ha ha. He thinks that the LAN is saturated? Or he thinks that your outbound WAN is saturated?
He thinks that the LAN is saturated.
How the heck is that happening and why hasn't it been fixed? He actually thinks that your switching backplanes are beyond capacity but hasn't addressed it? How does anyone work?
We have added switches because the switches that were put in when I showed up were not performing what we needed and were difficult to administer. We since then upgraded to newer and faster switches and network performance has improved. However, he still insists on VLANing EVERYTHING!!
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@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
All I shared was:
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11896/qos-for-voip-is-not-the-big-deal-the-vendors-want-you-to-think
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11895/why-vlans-do-not-provide-effective-qos-for-voipWhere did you share them?
With my boss by email and that was his response, by email.
Oh, ha ha. He thinks that the LAN is saturated? Or he thinks that your outbound WAN is saturated?
He thinks that the LAN is saturated.
How the heck is that happening and why hasn't it been fixed? He actually thinks that your switching backplanes are beyond capacity but hasn't addressed it? How does anyone work?
We have added switches because the switches that were put in when I showed up were not performing what we needed and were difficult to administer. We since then upgraded to newer and faster switches and network performance has improved. However, he still insists on VLANing EVERYTHING!!
Well the VLANs might explain the saturation. They cause that.
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Hence the "fix your network, don't hide the problems" mantra.
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Grilling some chicken and beef to have fiesta dinner with family and friends.
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Was going to bake some tilapia but decided that I wanted some sushi. Real sushi, not sashimi. I don't really do fish sushi, but I like vegetable sushi.
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Trying to get to some writing that I've had on my desk all day.
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@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
All I shared was:
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11896/qos-for-voip-is-not-the-big-deal-the-vendors-want-you-to-think
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11895/why-vlans-do-not-provide-effective-qos-for-voipWhere did you share them?
With my boss by email and that was his response, by email.
Oh, ha ha. He thinks that the LAN is saturated? Or he thinks that your outbound WAN is saturated?
He thinks that the LAN is saturated.
How the heck is that happening and why hasn't it been fixed? He actually thinks that your switching backplanes are beyond capacity but hasn't addressed it? How does anyone work?
We have added switches because the switches that were put in when I showed up were not performing what we needed and were difficult to administer. We since then upgraded to newer and faster switches and network performance has improved. However, he still insists on VLANing EVERYTHING!!
He can VLAN all he wants. But that does not change the fact that QoS on and entire VLAN is not correctly prioritizing the voice traffic.
It is prioritizing all of the traffic on the VLAN. Which includes the broadcast traffic and dns and dhcp and sip as well as the rtp that actually carries the voice traffic.
It is a misconfiguration based on stated intent.
You boss is wrong. Feel free to send this to him.
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
All I shared was:
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11896/qos-for-voip-is-not-the-big-deal-the-vendors-want-you-to-think
https://mangolassi.it/topic/11895/why-vlans-do-not-provide-effective-qos-for-voipWhere did you share them?
With my boss by email and that was his response, by email.
Oh, ha ha. He thinks that the LAN is saturated? Or he thinks that your outbound WAN is saturated?
He thinks that the LAN is saturated.
How the heck is that happening and why hasn't it been fixed? He actually thinks that your switching backplanes are beyond capacity but hasn't addressed it? How does anyone work?
We have added switches because the switches that were put in when I showed up were not performing what we needed and were difficult to administer. We since then upgraded to newer and faster switches and network performance has improved. However, he still insists on VLANing EVERYTHING!!
He can VLAN all he wants. But that does not change the fact that QoS on and entire VLAN is not correctly prioritizing the voisce traffic.
It is prioritizing all of the traffic on the VLAN. Which includes the broadcast traffic and dns and dhcp and sip as well as the rtp that actually carries the voice traffic.
It is a misconfiguration based on stated intent.
You boss is wrong. Feel free to send this to him.
Can't. Upvote. Enough.
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Just caught up on SW for the day, one of the fastest catchups I've ever had after a day offline. It's as if no one was there. And quite a few posts that I stumbled on had zero replies after being up most of the day.
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@NerdyDad How many phone calls are active when this happens?
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@momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad How many phone calls are active when this happens?
And is the audio an issue bidirectionally or just in one direction? Is there QoS on the WAN?
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I'm assuming that he knows that if this is happening it would be on extension to extension calls, not only on ones going to the outside.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I'm assuming that he knows that if this is happening it would be on extension to extension calls, not only on ones going to the outside.
Made this point to someone on SW today.
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@scottalanmiller That's because I was not there
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@scottalanmiller Right. With a gb network, you should be able to have at least a hundred calls
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/voice/voice-quality/7934-bwidth-consume.html#anc1 -
@momurda @scottalanmiller In the 2.5 years that I have been supporting this network, I have not had one complaint about call quality on extensions. If we do have complaints, it's on co ferenxe calls and is usually on a 3rd party bridge with sucky equipment.
Can't check QoS on the firewall because AT&T owns that right now.
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@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller That's because I was not there
Ha, that will do it. I was too busy to be there. It was eerily silent.
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@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@momurda @scottalanmiller In the 2.5 years that I have been supporting this network, I have not had one complaint about call quality on extensions. If we do have complaints, it's on co ferenxe calls and is usually on a 3rd party bridge with sucky equipment.
Can't check QoS on the firewall because AT&T owns that right now.
Sounds like an excuse that he didn't realize wasn't plausible.
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@scottalanmiller I didn't miss much, only 4 posts since 4 hours ago. I was playing softball and then fireworks so it took a while.
