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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
      last edited by wirestyle22

      @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

      @markl said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

      @scottalanmiller wow, even in that explanation is seems like RAID 10 over RAID 6... except I suppose because you can better leverage your total diskspace. Is that the primary motivation?

      Correct, the sole motivation for RAID 6 is that you can get more capacity at lower cost and quite often, that is a really big motivator. Speed and reliability, once you have "enough" might not be worth losing additional money over. And with moderately sized arrays, the capacity benefits of RAID 6 can be quite significant. Like in a 12 disk array.

      In what scenario would you personally use a raid 6 @scottalanmiller? Double parity is a huge penalty for cheap redundancy. Low capacity low iops server that only sort of matters?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
        last edited by

        @wirestyle22 said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

        @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

        @markl said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

        @scottalanmiller wow, even in that explanation is seems like RAID 10 over RAID 6... except I suppose because you can better leverage your total diskspace. Is that the primary motivation?

        Correct, the sole motivation for RAID 6 is that you can get more capacity at lower cost and quite often, that is a really big motivator. Speed and reliability, once you have "enough" might not be worth losing additional money over. And with moderately sized arrays, the capacity benefits of RAID 6 can be quite significant. Like in a 12 disk array.

        In what scenario would you personally use a raid 6 @scottalanmiller? Double parity is a huge penalty for cheap redundancy. Low capacity low iops server that only sort of matters?

        Any scenario where it meets the minimum requirement and the driver is lowering the cost of capacity. I'd almost always use it in backup and archival storage where I've not moved on to RAIN.

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse
          last edited by gjacobse

          The Netgear ReadyNAS line has three desktop models that will take eight drives- I don't know if this would help any..

          • RN628X - 130tb
          • RN528X - 130tb
          • RN428 - 80tb

          I have a ReadyNAS 4 bay, runs great, little maintenance - thought I suppose I could / should do more with it. It mainly just sits as I am slow working on the project of moving my media over to it.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
            last edited by

            @gjacobse said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

            RN628X

            Diskless, that unit is $2,082.27. That's limited to eight bays. Going with an enterprise server, like an R510, would be under half that price with far more power and flexibility. And not limited to SATA.

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

              @gjacobse said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

              RN628X

              Diskless, that unit is $2,082.27. That's limited to eight bays. Going with an enterprise server, like an R510, would be under half that price with far more power and flexibility. And not limited to SATA.

              Good point

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              • coliverC
                coliver @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                @gjacobse said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                RN628X

                Diskless, that unit is $2,082.27. That's limited to eight bays. Going with an enterprise server, like an R510, would be under half that price with far more power and flexibility. And not limited to SATA.

                I just did a quick Xbyte for this. Really beefy processors (for the class) plus 6TB usable RAID 10 array for $3,000.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                  last edited by

                  @coliver said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                  @gjacobse said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                  RN628X

                  Diskless, that unit is $2,082.27. That's limited to eight bays. Going with an enterprise server, like an R510, would be under half that price with far more power and flexibility. And not limited to SATA.

                  I just did a quick Xbyte for this. Really beefy processors (for the class) plus 6TB usable RAID 10 array for $3,000.

                  With SAS drives?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    You don't need really beefy processors nor dual processors. Look at smaller, single procs.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                      @coliver said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                      @gjacobse said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                      RN628X

                      Diskless, that unit is $2,082.27. That's limited to eight bays. Going with an enterprise server, like an R510, would be under half that price with far more power and flexibility. And not limited to SATA.

                      I just did a quick Xbyte for this. Really beefy processors (for the class) plus 6TB usable RAID 10 array for $3,000.

                      With SAS drives?

                      No, SATA. SAS would have bumped up the price a bit.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @coliver
                        last edited by

                        @coliver said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                        @coliver said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                        @gjacobse said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                        RN628X

                        Diskless, that unit is $2,082.27. That's limited to eight bays. Going with an enterprise server, like an R510, would be under half that price with far more power and flexibility. And not limited to SATA.

                        I just did a quick Xbyte for this. Really beefy processors (for the class) plus 6TB usable RAID 10 array for $3,000.

                        With SAS drives?

                        No, SATA. SAS would have bumped up the price a bit.

                        That's odd. normally it's the same or cheaper.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller
                          If @markl decides to use a server like R510, would you recommend installing a hypervisor and then setup a VM has a NAS server?

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @black3dynamite
                            last edited by

                            @black3dynamite said in Project: Home/SMB NAS Setup -- Need ur advice:

                            @scottalanmiller
                            If @markl decides to use a server like R510, would you recommend installing a hypervisor and then setup a VM has a NAS server?

                            Always virtualize. This isn't a special case.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Virtual. And I think I mentioned that buried in one of my posts about it. Or maybe it was the other thread that this split off of.

                              KVM, Xen or Hyper-V all work great here. Physical wouldn't be horrible, but no need for it.

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