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    • IRJI
      IRJ @travisdh1
      last edited by

      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

      I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

      I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

      It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

      That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

      $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

      I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

      I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

      I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

      I am guessing your area might be similar?

      Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

      What would you commute be?

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      • travisdh1T
        travisdh1 @IRJ
        last edited by

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

        I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

        I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

        It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

        That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

        $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

        I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

        I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

        I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

        I am guessing your area might be similar?

        Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

        What would you commute be?

        If I were to commute every day, around an hour each way. Depending where I find something, I'd be moving closer to work tho. Right now I'm about halfway in between, which makes for a nice big area I can physically get to interviews in.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
          last edited by

          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

          LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

          Maybe if you don't know the area....

          Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

          One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k

          I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.

          Well, apparently I'll have some time on my hands. If you want someone to clean it up and do some basic upgrades on the place....

          Thanks. It's in good shape though and my cousin is moving in.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IRJ
            last edited by

            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

            I would have to make double in Northern Virginia just be where I was at here in the Orlando area.

            Sure, but that's the most expensive single place in the country.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
              last edited by

              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

              Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

              I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

              I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

              It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

              No, it's bad. I've lived there.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                last edited by

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                That's like here in Dallas. Nice places within walking distance of my house for $800 (was just looking for my dad last week.) If you are willing to be more than a few blocks from SAM, you can be a lot cheaper, too. That's just "on my street" prices.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @IRJ
                  last edited by

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                  I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                  I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                  It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                  That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                  $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                  I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                  I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                  I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                  I am guessing your area might be similar?

                  That's the kicker. It's way more tech than Tennessee in those kinds of areas, but same general problem.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @IRJ
                    last edited by

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                    Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                    I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                    But then you'd have to live in Florida...

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                      I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                      Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                      I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                      But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                      That's the biggest problem.

                      wirestyle22W 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                        Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                        I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                        But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                        That's the biggest problem.

                        Better develop a taste for bath salts

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                          Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                          I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                          But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                          That's the biggest problem.

                          Better develop a taste for bath salts

                          More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

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                          • GreyG
                            Grey @wirestyle22
                            last edited by

                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                            Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                            I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                            But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                            That's the biggest problem.

                            Better develop a taste for bath salts

                            More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

                            NJ is just as bad

                            Nothing short of a guaranteed mil/yr with a golden parachute contract would make me move to NJ. That place is an armpit, and I've been to El Paso.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @Grey
                              last edited by

                              @Grey said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                              Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                              I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                              But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                              That's the biggest problem.

                              Better develop a taste for bath salts

                              More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

                              NJ is just as bad

                              Nothing short of a guaranteed mil/yr with a golden parachute contract would make me move to NJ. That place is an armpit, and I've been to El Paso.

                              It's the asshole of america imo

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                              • GreyG
                                Grey @wirestyle22
                                last edited by

                                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @Grey said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                That's the biggest problem.

                                Better develop a taste for bath salts

                                More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

                                NJ is just as bad

                                Nothing short of a guaranteed mil/yr with a golden parachute contract would make me move to NJ. That place is an armpit, and I've been to El Paso.

                                It's the asshole of america imo

                                No, that guy has orange hair.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Grey
                                  last edited by

                                  @Grey said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @Grey said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                  Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                  I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                  But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                  That's the biggest problem.

                                  Better develop a taste for bath salts

                                  More like get used to taking a bath by stepping outside. I've been stuck in summer down there with no A/C before.

                                  NJ is just as bad

                                  Nothing short of a guaranteed mil/yr with a golden parachute contract would make me move to NJ. That place is an armpit, and I've been to El Paso.

                                  It's the asshole of america imo

                                  No, that guy has orange hair.

                                  Oh man that was the perfect setup!

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                                  • IRJI
                                    IRJ @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                    Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                    I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                    But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                    Never heard that one before 😉

                                    coliverC 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @IRJ
                                      last edited by

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                      Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                      I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                      But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                      Never heard that one before 😉

                                      I mean there's a reason people say it...

                                      IRJI 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @coliver
                                        last edited by

                                        @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                        Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                        I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                        But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                        Never heard that one before 😉

                                        I mean there's a reason people say it...

                                        Yet our population keeps growing from the rest of the country...

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                          Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                          I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                          But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                          Never heard that one before 😉

                                          I mean there's a reason people say it...

                                          Yet our population keeps growing from the rest of the country...

                                          Yes, the zombie population. It's where the rest of us go to die out of courtesy as to not plague the population in our home states.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @IRJ
                                            last edited by

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @coliver said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.

                                            Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.

                                            I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.

                                            But then you'd have to live in Florida...

                                            Never heard that one before 😉

                                            I mean there's a reason people say it...

                                            Yet our population keeps growing from the rest of the country...

                                            You mean rate of change? California has you beat. Even Texas I believe is growing faster then Florida is.

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