Well, that really, really sucks.
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Apparently there was a misunderstanding. I am thinking lower cost of living compared to west coast and large east coast cities. IT jobs aren't exactly overflowing in most rural low cost areas.
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
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@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....
LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.
Maybe if you don't know the area....
Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.
One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k
I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.
Well, apparently I'll have some time on my hands. If you want someone to clean it up and do some basic upgrades on the place....
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@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
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I would have to make double in Northern Virginia just be where I was at here in the Orlando area.
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
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@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
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@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000
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@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000
I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.
I am guessing your area might be similar?
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000
I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.
I am guessing your area might be similar?
Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.
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@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000
I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.
I am guessing your area might be similar?
Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.
What would you commute be?
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000
I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.
I am guessing your area might be similar?
Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.
What would you commute be?
If I were to commute every day, around an hour each way. Depending where I find something, I'd be moving closer to work tho. Right now I'm about halfway in between, which makes for a nice big area I can physically get to interviews in.
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@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....
LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.
Maybe if you don't know the area....
Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.
One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k
I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.
Well, apparently I'll have some time on my hands. If you want someone to clean it up and do some basic upgrades on the place....
Thanks. It's in good shape though and my cousin is moving in.
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
I would have to make double in Northern Virginia just be where I was at here in the Orlando area.
Sure, but that's the most expensive single place in the country.
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@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
No, it's bad. I've lived there.
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
That's like here in Dallas. Nice places within walking distance of my house for $800 (was just looking for my dad last week.) If you are willing to be more than a few blocks from SAM, you can be a lot cheaper, too. That's just "on my street" prices.
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).
I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.
I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.
It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.
That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..
$1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though
I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.
I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000
I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.
I am guessing your area might be similar?
That's the kicker. It's way more tech than Tennessee in those kinds of areas, but same general problem.
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@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
@IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:
I've had the opposite experience and have done better at organizations with no internal contacts.
Well, depending on how things go tomorrow, I may be headed down that road.
I know about quite a few openings in the Orlando area that are actively seeking employees. It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living and no state income tax.
But then you'd have to live in Florida...
