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    • IRJI
      IRJ @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

      . My issue is you making a statement like it's fact with no knowledge or

      You say this assuming I don't know the Orlando area. I've spent a lot of time there. I have lots of friends that live there. I have looked at prices there. I have a fair idea of the cost. My family is also from where Travis is from and I know those costs REALLY well and know that no city in the US is comparable. He's not close to any city, it's insanely cheap where he is.

      You said that Orlando is cheaper, but keep showing that it is more expensive.

      Not cheaper than where he lives, but much cheaper than the west coast where he was looking

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @IRJ
        last edited by

        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

        Rochester and Orlando are on the low side compared to other larger cities.

        Agreed, but very expensive compared to Ohio's countryside.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @IRJ
          last edited by

          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

          Not cheaper than where he lives, but much cheaper than the west coast where he was looking

          Granted, but that's not that I said.

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          • jt1001001J
            jt1001001 @travisdh1
            last edited by

            @travisdh1 wow that's cheap. Was going to suggest looking around here (Buffalo, Western New York)but don't think we can compete on cost of living.

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            • IRJI
              IRJ
              last edited by

              Apparently there was a misunderstanding. I am thinking lower cost of living compared to west coast and large east coast cities. IT jobs aren't exactly overflowing in most rural low cost areas.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                last edited by

                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

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                • travisdh1T
                  travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                  It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

                  LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

                  Maybe if you don't know the area....

                  Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

                  One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k

                  I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.

                  Well, apparently I'll have some time on my hands. If you want someone to clean it up and do some basic upgrades on the place....

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                  • IRJI
                    IRJ @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                    Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                    I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                    I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

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                    • IRJI
                      IRJ
                      last edited by

                      I would have to make double in Northern Virginia just be where I was at here in the Orlando area.

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                      • wirestyle22W
                        wirestyle22 @IRJ
                        last edited by

                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                        Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                        I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                        I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                        It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ @wirestyle22
                          last edited by

                          @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                          Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                          I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                          I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                          It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                          That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @IRJ
                            last edited by

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                            Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                            I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                            I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                            It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                            That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                            $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

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                            • IRJI
                              IRJ @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                              Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                              I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                              I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                              It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                              That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                              $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                              I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                                I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                                I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                                It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                                That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                                $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                                I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                                I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ @travisdh1
                                  last edited by

                                  @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                  Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                                  I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                                  I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                                  It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                                  That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                                  $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                                  I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                                  I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                                  I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                                  I am guessing your area might be similar?

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                                  • travisdh1T
                                    travisdh1 @IRJ
                                    last edited by

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                    Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                                    I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                                    I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                                    It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                                    That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                                    $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                                    I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                                    I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                                    I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                                    I am guessing your area might be similar?

                                    Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

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                                    • IRJI
                                      IRJ @travisdh1
                                      last edited by

                                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                      Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                                      I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                                      I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                                      It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                                      That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                                      $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                                      I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                                      I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                                      I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                                      I am guessing your area might be similar?

                                      Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

                                      What would you commute be?

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                                      • travisdh1T
                                        travisdh1 @IRJ
                                        last edited by

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                        Wasn't he just looking at some place on the West Coast? I mean that should blow expensive East coast cities out of the water (not Rochester or Orlando).

                                        I'm not aware that he was. The east coast isn't THAT bad. Boston and NYC are, of course. But lots of the east coast is cheaper than the west.

                                        I haven't traveled as much as you, but everywhere I've been on the east coast is bad (mostly the big cities). Northern Virginia (as you are already well aware) is insane.

                                        It depends on where you live Alexandria isn't that bad. Had an ex-girlfriend that lived there.

                                        That's where I was staying. I was hearing about $1500 a month for a basic apartment in a decent area..

                                        $1300-1500. That is what I pay right now though

                                        I could get something nice where I live for $750-800. You can rent a 4 bedroom house for $900.

                                        I'm paying $300/month right now. This area a good apartment goes for around $450. Renting is silly compared to buying around here tho. You can easily find a place for $30,000-$40,000

                                        I know some rural areas in Tennessee that are similar, but I am pretty sure 95% of the population cannot spell "IT" so I doubt there would be many jobs.

                                        I am guessing your area might be similar?

                                        Quite similar, yes. At least I can get to Cleveland/Columbus easily from here, so I have some opportunities in the area. Not that I'm only looking in Ohio.

                                        What would you commute be?

                                        If I were to commute every day, around an hour each way. Depending where I find something, I'd be moving closer to work tho. Right now I'm about halfway in between, which makes for a nice big area I can physically get to interviews in.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @travisdh1 said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                          It may not be ideal for you, but lower cost of living ....

                                          LOL. I don't think you have a good concept of his cost of living. Orlando is SO much more expensive.

                                          Maybe if you don't know the area....

                                          Pretty sure even if you do. Orlando might be low, but it's not even in the ballpark. I can buy a house in his area for $35K.

                                          One of the other local IT guys I know recently bought a house for $30k. He renovated it and is thinking about moving, he'll sell the thing for $120k

                                          I just inherited a house in your area. Pretty sure it's worth nothing.

                                          Well, apparently I'll have some time on my hands. If you want someone to clean it up and do some basic upgrades on the place....

                                          Thanks. It's in good shape though and my cousin is moving in.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                            last edited by

                                            @IRJ said in Well, that really, really sucks.:

                                            I would have to make double in Northern Virginia just be where I was at here in the Orlando area.

                                            Sure, but that's the most expensive single place in the country.

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