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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:

      @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

      @scottalanmiller Has it gotten any better for 2 way sync?

      No one really does two way sync. Rsync doesn't even attempt two way.

      And in this instance, you do not want two way sync. Why would even go there? The one in colo or the main office is supposed to be a copy only. You don't want dual masters. That is just a mess waiting to happen. You want a master, a slave, and a backup.

      I recommend making the backup off the slave just because it was suggested to be in a colo with no bandwidth concerns.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @bigbear
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        @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

        @JaredBusch per @scottalanmiller no one does two way sync.

        Is it a cloud feature of synology?

        I think you are mixing things up. There is no two way sync.

        Drop box is a client that pushes all changes to its master (their server) and then the clients know to pull down changes.

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        • bigbearB
          bigbear @JaredBusch
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          @JaredBusch its a long standing desire to have about 800gb replicated real time to a branch office. Looked at Nasuni and storage gateways starting at $50k.

          I would assume dropbox on synology would work the way it does between 2 machines, but maybe I am wrong. Change a file on the network shared dropbox on synology and see it synced to desktops, then vice versa.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @bigbear
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            @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

            @JaredBusch its a long standing desire to have about 800gb replicated real time to a branch office. Looked at Nasuni and storage gateways starting at $50k.

            I would assume dropbox on synology would work the way it does between 2 machines, but maybe I am wrong. Change a file on the network shared dropbox on synology and see it synced to desktops, then vice versa.

            Nasuni isn't multi-master either.

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @bigbear
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              @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

              @JaredBusch its a long standing desire to have about 800gb replicated real time to a branch office. Looked at Nasuni and storage gateways starting at $50k.

              I would assume dropbox on synology would work the way it does between 2 machines, but maybe I am wrong. Change a file on the network shared dropbox on synology and see it synced to desktops, then vice versa.

              Yes, but that is not multi-master either.

              If two people edit the same file you will hit conflicts. No sync service can be multi-master.

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              • JaredBuschJ
                JaredBusch @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                If two people edit the same file you will hit conflicts. No sync service can be multi-master.

                People use them this way all the time, but they are not multi-master. If the same files are almost never touched, then it will give the appearance of it. And that suffices for many.

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                • bigbearB
                  bigbear @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch yeah I guess I see - you are talking about file locking and the live editing of the same document.

                  The files in question are rarely updated on both sides, very rarely. Definitely wouldn't be any conflicts as a result of two parties editing the same doc.

                  The more frequent use case is that someone dumps new docs in folder A and on the other side someone dumps something new in folder B and both want to see it. Someone would edit, finish a project forward in workflow to next person who would be able to see and edit it.

                  Is that something Synology does?

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller Maybe it was Panzura that was multi-master.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @bigbear
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                      @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                      @JaredBusch yeah I guess I see - you are talking about file locking and the live editing of the same document.

                      The files in question are rarely updated on both sides, very rarely. Definitely wouldn't be any conflicts as a result of two parties editing the same doc.

                      The more frequent use case is that someone dumps new docs in folder A and on the other side someone dumps something new in folder B and both want to see it. Someone would edit, finish a project forward in workflow to next person who would be able to see and edit it.

                      Is that something Synology does?

                      Not on its own, no. The problem with any situation like this is if someone "can" modify both at the same time. That it is rare doesn't fix the problem. It has to deal with it when it arises. If you are confident that the whole thing is ridiculously rare and you don't care about changes, you could script something yourself to handle it.

                      In a case like this, though, is having two NAS really the way to go? If so, I suspect Dropbox or Nextcloud or something could handle this.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:

                        In a case like this, though, is having two NAS really the way to go? If so, I suspect Dropbox or Nextcloud or something could handle this.

                        I recommended two of them as Synology 1 (primary), Synology 2 (offsite replica/backup), and backup (cloud solution).

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                          @scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:

                          In a case like this, though, is having two NAS really the way to go? If so, I suspect Dropbox or Nextcloud or something could handle this.

                          I recommended two of them as Synology 1 (primary), Synology 2 (offsite replica/backup), and backup (cloud solution).

                          That probably makes the most sense. Just posing the idea that maybe none at all is needed.

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:

                            @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                            @scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:

                            In a case like this, though, is having two NAS really the way to go? If so, I suspect Dropbox or Nextcloud or something could handle this.

                            I recommended two of them as Synology 1 (primary), Synology 2 (offsite replica/backup), and backup (cloud solution).

                            That probably makes the most sense. Just posing the idea that maybe none at all is needed.

                            No, single local storage method is needed (per earlier definition of need in the thread). So once you have a single local copy, you need to protect it.

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                            • bigbearB
                              bigbear @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch I think I am going to go with the primary onsite and secondary offsite approach. The full sync folder to branch office has never been critical, just always waiting for someone to solve this problem.

                              But honestly a more efficient organization of our data would be a better solution. Its just a lot to move around folder to folder.

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                              • bigbearB
                                bigbear
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                                There was a guy in here somewhere selling a use "scale" system that I am trying to find. I am sure it was in this thread. Please PM me.

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @bigbear
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                                  @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                  There was a guy in here somewhere selling a use "scale" system that I am trying to find. I am sure it was in this thread. Please PM me.

                                  Paging @mroth911

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                                  • bigbearB
                                    bigbear
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                                    Thanks just sent him a PM

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