New Server for the office
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@mroth911 I was checking out the videos, I think its probably huge overkill for my needs but it looks interesting. I am shopping around right now at about $5k for what I think is going to suit me.
I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?
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@bigbear Sky is the limit with scale. Right now I am using it to host Websites. The hyper visor is insane and also up and running. there support is top notch as well.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:
I have not looked at MicroTik in probably a decade
They rely heavily on partners and I dont think there is any good marketing to the U.S. Since I have dealt with them they remind me of dealing with Ubiquiti or Ruckus in their earlier days. A lean/mean company that makes everything in house.
RouterBoard hardware incredible, I dont know how they stay so far ahead with RouterOS thought.
Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it
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For your solution my question is why are you even looking at Azure AD?
It sounds to me that you only need to file shares of some kind.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@mroth911 I was checking out the videos, I think its probably huge overkill for my needs but it looks interesting. I am shopping around right now at about $5k for what I think is going to suit me.
I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?
Scale clusters were designed with the idea of replacing VMWare clusters. They're even better if you're in a greenfield environment. A cluster gives you compute and storage, you just have to bring the network (10gb/s recommended for the cluster interconnects). I've seen live demos of the system and it's quite impressive.
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@JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:
For your solution my question is why are you even looking at Azure AD?
It sounds to me that you only need to file shares of some kind.
Yeah I think figuring out the best storage (some type of raid, a jbod, etc) is the big priority.
The only reason I would want AD at this point is to manage/lock out new and departing employees. And there is going to big a bit of a shake up over the next few months. I don't really need to lock users down at this point, everyone is some sort of engineer or power user here.
The idea of the basic/free AD and not managing a local DC appeals to me.
I would also be looking to apply that directory service to the file shares.
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@JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:
Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it
I know everything is preference. Ubiquiti has had some hiccups and I am also fond of peplink. With RouterOS it just seems like the sky is the limit and they have a lot of hardware options or you can run it yourself. For under $5000 you can get 24 million pps from their cloud router. We have a high bandwidth environment here so you can really tell the difference.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:
Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it
I know everything is preference. Ubiquiti has had some hiccups and I am also fond of peplink. With RouterOS it just seems like the sky is the limit and they have a lot of hardware options or you can run it yourself. For under $5000 you can get 24 million pps from their cloud router. We have a high bandwidth environment here so you can really tell the difference.
Now that is impressive. I don't think Ubiquiti offers anything with that sort of performance. I that a 12 port 10gb?
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@travisdh1 said in New Server for the office:
@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:
Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it
I know everything is preference. Ubiquiti has had some hiccups and I am also fond of peplink. With RouterOS it just seems like the sky is the limit and they have a lot of hardware options or you can run it yourself. For under $5000 you can get 24 million pps from their cloud router. We have a high bandwidth environment here so you can really tell the difference.
Now that is impressive. I don't think Ubiquiti offers anything with that sort of performance. I that a 12 port 10gb?
Sorry I meant to say for under $500!
Google this model
CCR1016-12S-1S+But also for under $100 they have models, I think even down to $60 that are a lot faster than Ubiquiti.
And you can license RouterOS to a hard drive or SSD for $45. You have to be careful about reloading cause you can lose your license.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
The only reason I would want AD at this point is to manage/lock out new and departing employees. And there is going to big a bit of a shake up over the next few months. I don't really need to lock users down at this point, everyone is some sort of engineer or power user here.
The idea of the basic/free AD and not managing a local DC appeals to me.
Azure AD and even something like Ansible can do that for you, though. No need for MS AD servers. And if you really want AD anyway, Linux can do that for free. But it is not "basic", it's the full thing.
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@scottalanmiller NIS?
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?
It's a general purpose hyperconvergence cluster. So its standard application is as your "entire infrastructure", not including your switches and routers of course. It's a lot like having your own cloud in house, you can just "spin up" whatever VMs you need from a web gui. All of your storage and high availability is baked in so you get a single, very easy to manage system like using something like Digital Ocean, but on premises or in your own colo and with your control of the capacity.
We have a six node @Scale HC3 hosted by @colocationamerica it's a sweet setup.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@travisdh1 Discovering vultr.com has really blown everything else away for me.
They are great. We used to use a lot of providers but have scaled back to only Vultr and Linode now. No one else competes with them for our needs.
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@scottalanmiller What do you use?
@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
@scottalanmiller NIS?
LOL, no.
What do you use on Linux?
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@coliver said in New Server for the office:
I would say check out SuperMicro and xByte. They have loads of options available and the support to go along with it.
Same here. If I am buying servers these days, I pretty much only look at @ryan-from-xbyte xByte for Dell equipment or SuperMicro in markets where getting Dell is difficult (Canada!!) or when we need form factors that Dell does not provide. These are our two go to vendors.
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@coliver said in New Server for the office:
@DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:
With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.
You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.
I thought their base price was $23K. May be wrong though.
Yes, $25K for the entry level three node HC1100.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
Budget is anywhere under $10k. Could also just go with a NAS if I try Azure AD out, just really can't decide who I want to use for hardware.
Azure AD is a pain to integrate with a NAS. But some NAS like Synology and ioSafe will do full AD right from the NAS (since it is Linux under the hood.) The only NAS vendors that I'd really contemplate are Synology and ReadyNAS for traditional vendors, ioSafe as they do Synology with fire and water proofing added and, of course, SAM-SD devices since you get more power and unlimited flexibility.
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@scottalanmiller said in New Server for the office:
@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
Budget is anywhere under $10k. Could also just go with a NAS if I try Azure AD out, just really can't decide who I want to use for hardware.
Azure AD is a pain to integrate with a NAS. But some NAS like Synology and ioSafe will do full AD right from the NAS (since it is Linux under the hood.) The only NAS vendors that I'd really contemplate are Synology and ReadyNAS for traditional vendors, ioSafe as they do Synology with fire and water proofing added and, of course, SAM-SD devices since you get more power and unlimited flexibility.
ioSafe looks interesting. Whats a 5TB model and cost look like? Or something in that range?
I am also familiar with Synology but I cant remember how. Reminds me of QNAP.
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@bigbear said in New Server for the office:
I am also familiar with Synology but I cant remember how. Reminds me of QNAP.
Think of it as a business class QNAP.
