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    • StrongBadS
      StrongBad @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

      You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

      Isn't there a used one for sale around here?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403 @StrongBad
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        @StrongBad said in New Server for the office:

        @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

        You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

        Isn't there a used one for sale around here?

        Actually yes there is!

        https://mangolassi.it/topic/12990/used-scale-hc3-equipment-for-sale/1

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403
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          Paging @mroth911

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @coliver
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            @coliver said in New Server for the office:

            @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

            With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

            You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

            I thought their base price was $23K. May be wrong though.

            They're offering single servers now, so I'd assume around 1/3 that price, $7700.

            I'd immediately check what @xByteSean has to offer.

            Lenovo is a never touch company now. In addition to all the lies around superfish, the BIOS level remote access bug was only ever fixed by a password change. So if you have a Lenovo on your network, you are no longer in control of said network.

            Mikrotik do make some good gear, but Ubiquiti has surpassed them in value.

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            • bigbearB
              bigbear @coliver
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              @coliver said in New Server for the office:

              @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

              2.) if anything better than mikrotik has surfaced I'd be surprised, but open just for sake of conversation

              Check out Ubiquiti. I've never used Mikrotik so can't compare the two but I've used Ubiquiti a lot in the past and it is really solid equipment for a very inexpensive price.

              Have used a lot of Ubiquiti over the years as a regional WISP. All new stuff is Mikrotek now.

              There really is no comparison on the router side, Microtik is incredible. They aren't big in the US. Their hardware is killer but you can download RouterOS and run it on a VM.

              You should check it out.

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              • bigbearB
                bigbear @wirestyle22
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                @wirestyle22 said in New Server for the office:

                @bigbear This is a VM host machine housing one domain controller and a file server only? Is the network gear you are referring to a UTM that charges you licensing fees etc?

                https://mikrotik.com/

                They blow everything else away. Best hardware, best software, no-BS licensing. 20 years hardened.

                I'm not close minded though, always looking. But for 3 years I have been a Microtik fanboy.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch
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                  I have not looked at MicroTik in probably a decade

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                  • bigbearB
                    bigbear @travisdh1
                    last edited by

                    @travisdh1 said in New Server for the office:

                    @coliver said in New Server for the office:

                    @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                    With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                    You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                    I thought their base price was $23K. May be wrong though.

                    They're offering single servers now, so I'd assume around 1/3 that price, $7700.

                    I'd immediately check what @xByteSean has to offer.

                    Lenovo is a never touch company now. In addition to all the lies around superfish, the BIOS level remote access bug was only ever fixed by a password change. So if you have a Lenovo on your network, you are no longer in control of said network.

                    Mikrotik do make some good gear, but Ubiquiti has surpassed them in value.

                    I never really trust them, lol. Early on I was an AS400 admin (oh 18 years ago) and I had always been drawn to IBM. So I gave them a shot.

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                    • mroth911M
                      mroth911
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                      I have a scale 3 node cluster for sale?

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                      • bigbearB
                        bigbear @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                        I have not looked at MicroTik in probably a decade

                        They rely heavily on partners and I dont think there is any good marketing to the U.S. Since I have dealt with them they remind me of dealing with Ubiquiti or Ruckus in their earlier days. A lean/mean company that makes everything in house.

                        RouterBoard hardware incredible, I dont know how they stay so far ahead with RouterOS thought.

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                        • bigbearB
                          bigbear @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                          With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                          You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                          Its a very low i/o situation. Almost like 2.8TB of live archive file access and 200GB of moderately used data.

                          Would like a single box solution. Was thinking just NAS with some cloud Azure AD would be sufficient.

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                          • art_of_shredA
                            art_of_shred Banned @mroth911
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                            @mroth911 said in New Server for the office:

                            I have a scale 3 node cluster for sale?

                            You don't sound very sure of it.

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @bigbear
                              last edited by

                              @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                              @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                              With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                              You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                              Its a very low i/o situation. Almost like 2.8TB of live archive file access and 200GB of moderately used data.

                              Would like a single box solution. Was thinking just NAS with some cloud Azure AD would be sufficient.

                              And if that single box catches on fire?

                              What is in place currently, nothing? What is running the business as a whole, that is now splitting?

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                              • travisdh1T
                                travisdh1 @bigbear
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                                @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                @DustinB3403 said in New Server for the office:

                                With any solution you're going to want to virtualize. So be it Hyper-V, XenServer, ESXi or KVM. Installing anything besides a hypervisor to bare metal really needs a very specific reason. Which I don't think you have.

                                You may be able to get something from @scale within that price range, but I honestly don't know.

                                Its a very low i/o situation. Almost like 2.8TB of live archive file access and 200GB of moderately used data.

                                Would like a single box solution. Was thinking just NAS with some cloud Azure AD would be sufficient.

                                Yep, all hosted could be an option as well. I know prices for just storage have really dropped, transport is where a lot of cost is on cloud solutions.

                                You've always got WholesaleInternet.com as well. Just went through a failing hard drive replacement on my box I have with them, and they were good through the entire process. No helping hand with figuring out what was wrong, but I didn't expect that either.

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                                • mroth911M
                                  mroth911
                                  last edited by

                                  i have a scale 3 node cluster that I am selling. I am very sure of selling it . IT is about 5 months old.

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                                  • bigbearB
                                    bigbear @travisdh1
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                                    @travisdh1 Discovering vultr.com has really blown everything else away for me.

                                    I have to have the data local because browsing all the huge files at a moments notice for a tower permit or a maritime deployment involves perusing 100gbs of data quickly at a moments notice.

                                    We have an oct192 here and it still isn't feasible lol

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                                    • bigbearB
                                      bigbear @mroth911
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                                      @mroth911 I was checking out the videos, I think its probably huge overkill for my needs but it looks interesting. I am shopping around right now at about $5k for what I think is going to suit me.

                                      I will definitely keep you in mind as I deal with a lot of IT people. What is the best application for a scale cluster?

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                                      • mroth911M
                                        mroth911
                                        last edited by

                                        @bigbear Sky is the limit with scale. Right now I am using it to host Websites. The hyper visor is insane and also up and running. there support is top notch as well.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @bigbear
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                                          @bigbear said in New Server for the office:

                                          @JaredBusch said in New Server for the office:

                                          I have not looked at MicroTik in probably a decade

                                          They rely heavily on partners and I dont think there is any good marketing to the U.S. Since I have dealt with them they remind me of dealing with Ubiquiti or Ruckus in their earlier days. A lean/mean company that makes everything in house.

                                          RouterBoard hardware incredible, I dont know how they stay so far ahead with RouterOS thought.

                                          Oh I'm quite well aware of the brand it's just not not something I've considered for production for 10 years or so I should probably take another serious look at it

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
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                                            For your solution my question is why are you even looking at Azure AD?

                                            It sounds to me that you only need to file shares of some kind.

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